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General Discussion>Brake pads for my Envoy, I need suggestions.
e-man67 11:17 AM 08-11-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
That'd drive me out of my mind. :-)

They squeal when they glaze...take the unused pad and rough it up on the concrete before you put them on...just make a few circles...U can also use anti-squeal.
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St. Lou Stu 11:19 AM 08-11-2009
Welp I was a GM tech for 9 years and couldn't stand any of the OE pads that they used.
Ceramic are decent, not too overpriced, but will shorten the life of the rotors (hardly noticable though).

I would go with a ceramic personally.

Buy here... http://www.rockauto.com/
Even with shipping they are still usually cheaper and have GREAT customer service.
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shilala 01:50 PM 08-11-2009
Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu:
Welp I was a GM tech for 9 years and couldn't stand any of the OE pads that they used.
Ceramic are decent, not too overpriced, but will shorten the life of the rotors (hardly noticable though).

I would go with a ceramic personally.

Buy here... http://www.rockauto.com/
Even with shipping they are still usually cheaper and have GREAT customer service.
I got Raybestos Professional Grade Plus Ceramic. Same kind that was on it. Only cost me 60 bucks out the door for the front axle. :-)
Now if it wasn't thunderstorming, I'd roll around and put them on.
I think I'll call my little brother and get him to do it for me. :-)
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St. Lou Stu 01:55 PM 08-11-2009
That's what little brothers are for, eh?
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shilala 02:02 PM 08-11-2009
Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu:
That's what little brothers are for, eh?
You betcha. :-)
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Hitagain 07:48 PM 08-11-2009
Originally Posted by DBall:
Use a few gurkhas... :-)
They wear too quickly and make your car smell funny.......
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mosesbotbol 04:40 AM 08-12-2009
I put Akebono's on my Jag and they are quiet and very low dusting. They are not the ultimate gripping power, but no complaints.
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shilala 06:26 AM 08-12-2009
I am now going to attempt to put the pads on the Envoy.
I'm going to try to keep count of how many times I curse. I need a ruling on this, though. Do the curse words I don't say out loud count?
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e-man67 06:35 AM 08-12-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
I am now going to attempt to put the pads on the Envoy.
I'm going to try to keep count of how many times I curse. I need a ruling on this, though. Do the curse words I don't say out loud count?

You won't have a problem...just 2 bolts for the brake caliper, remove caliper from atop rotor, remove old pads, compress piston on caliper with c-clamp, slide or clip pads in, slide caliper back over rotor, insert caliper bolts again,Done! repeat other side! :-)
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okieRob 06:51 AM 08-12-2009
I put a set of ceramics on my truck for the first time a couple of months ago and I have been very happy with them. Around here most of the part stores offer a lifetime warranty on their parts. I'm the type to keep a vehicle for years and years so I don't mind paying a little more for the pads one time. If I wear them out I'll get a second set at no charge.

Using a C-clamp - why didn't I think of that? :-) I used a huge pair of channel lock pliers to apply slow and steady pressure until veins were popping out of my forehead.

- Rob
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kenstogie 07:05 AM 08-12-2009
FWIW a couple point.... on my old Nissan Rear Disc Brakes you have to TURN the Piston on the caliper in not just push it so watch out for that AND garages mark up the price of parts also to pad the bottom line it pretty common place though.`
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shilala 07:44 AM 08-12-2009
That took a whole hour and ten minutes.
Zero curses, lost no brake fluid at all, took it for a ride, and stopped at the audio store down the street to look for an all-in-one nav unit/dvd/stereo.
You guys saved me 250 bucks.
Thank You!!! :-)
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shilala 07:47 AM 08-12-2009
My calipers had two pistons. I used my wood clamps. I drew one down, pulled that clamp off, used a smaller slamp to hold it, and then used the larger clamp to draw down the other.
Popped them both off and threw them aside. Took ten seconds or so. :-)
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St. Lou Stu 07:52 AM 08-12-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
My calipers had two pistons. I used my wood clamps. I drew one down, pulled that clamp off, used a smaller slamp to hold it, and then used the larger clamp to draw down the other.
Popped them both off and threw them aside. Took ten seconds or so. :-)
Nice!
sounds like your ready to start a side bidness :-)

For future reference, don't take the inner (piston side) pad off. Use it to clamp on and apply pressure to both pistons at once compressing them both back home all at once.

Don't ya love time saving tips after the fact?:-)
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shilala 08:04 AM 08-12-2009
Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu:
Nice!
sounds like your ready to start a side bidness :-)

For future reference, don't take the inner (piston side) pad off. Use it to clamp on and apply pressure to both pistons at once compressing them both back home all at once.

Don't ya love time saving tips after the fact?:-)
All I did is used my big wood clamps to draw back the caliper enough to pull it off the pad assembly. The padd assmbly stayed laying on the rotor. That took three seconds.
The caliper compression deal only took ten seconds.
The big slow down in the whole deal was that both my 3/8 and 1/2 Craftsman wratchets are shot. I fought with them the whole way.
I will be going to Sears to have them replaced today.
Maybe right now, as a matter of fact.
I have to get some ice on, eat some more pills, apply my tens unit, and do some praying first cause my back is trying to kill me and if they give me any sh!t at Sears I'm likely to have some sort of philosophical disagreement that ends up with bloodshed and jail time. :-)
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TheTraveler 08:42 AM 08-12-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
... and if they give me any sh!t at Sears I'm likely to have some sort of philosophical disagreement that ends up with bloodshed and jail time. :-)
I've offered my steel toe boots (with me in them) up for service to Al if any butt or nad kicking is needed with the insurance company. Give me a holler if the guy at Sears gives you any lip! :-)
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aich75013 08:57 AM 08-12-2009
Sounds like it went okay. Great to hear.

Last time I replaced a few ratchets at Sears, they were very nice. They gave me refurbished ones, but that was okay with me.
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shilala 09:46 AM 08-12-2009
I got my wratchets, no problem whatsoever.
Didn't need to sign a paper, get a receipt, and the kid never got off the phone till we were almost done.
Then he saw my ipod touch and we talked about that. He has the same one.
He hates Verizon Wireless and is switching to AT&T so he can get an iPhone, too. :-)
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lightning9191 10:09 AM 08-12-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
I got my wratchets, no problem whatsoever.
Didn't need to sign a paper, get a receipt, and the kid never got off the phone till we were almost done.
Then he saw my ipod touch and we talked about that. He has the same one.
He hates Verizon Wireless and is switching to AT&T so he can get an iPhone, too. :-)
You gonna adopt him?:-)
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shilala 10:13 AM 08-12-2009
One last observation and I'll shut up about my brakes (maybe)...
The old pads were only about half gone. They'd have easily got another 20 or 30k on them.
The difference in stopping power is HUGE with the new pads on.
I just put new tires on it about a month ago, now the new brakes up front, plus the rotors turned Monday, and man, does it stop way better. Takes a lot less effort on the brake pedal, too.
Plus it doesn't shimmy anymore when I stop and I bought the expensive tires so they oughta last a long time, plus they're silent.
I couldn't be more pleased with the whole experience. :-)
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