No smoking on college campus?- Any place else? - Page 2

Originally Posted by Dukeuni:
I thought that part was really surprising:

Q&A from the website:

Q: Can I smoke in my personal vehicle on campus?
A: No. The policy prohibits smoking within personal vehicles anywhere within the campus boundaries.

Also another interesting answer:

Q: Is a smoke-free policy a violation of civil and Constitutional rights?
A: No, there is no Constitutional "right" to smoke or use tobacco. Tobacco users are not a category protected under the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution, nor is tobacco use a protected liberty right under the Due Process clause of the Constitution.

Basically, it is the University saying: "You are not smart enough to stop smoking, so we need to force you to stop....."

Article [IX]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

This^
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Originally Posted by replicant_argent:
I would also like to know what the consequences for breaking their silly little rule if you are not a student or faculty.
Double Secret Probation?

They can issue a trespass warning, escort you off campus and arrest you if you ever return.
We have the same rule at the hospital where I work.
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Originally Posted by jjirons69:
...Wait until they outlaw booze.

They tried that; all we got was a bunch of classic gangster movies.

:-)
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Originally Posted by St. Lou Stu:
The entire University of Missouri system went smoke free including in your own personal vehicle unless the windows are up and no smoke is allowed to escape.

Campus police actually sit in the parking lot and look for offenders.

Hey, I'm at Missouri S&T, (formerly UM-Rolla), we've got a smoking ban, as well as a city wide no smoking in bars, etc.. I can say the ban on campus seems to be universally ignored. The campus pd and security are far too busy writing parking tickets.
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Originally Posted by Smooth23:
Hey, I'm at Missouri S&T, (formerly UM-Rolla), we've got a smoking ban, as well as a city wide no smoking in bars, etc.. I can say the ban on campus seems to be universally ignored. The campus pd and security are far too busy writing parking tickets.

lol... I'm at UMSL now for my second degree and they spend alot of time on parking and smoking infractions... murder and robbery require FAR too much paperwork!

Good luck at S&T, we hire quite a few people from there. Check out Hunter Engineering during career days! Great school!
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Marriott and Ritz-Carlton in the US are all smoke free and do assign $250 dollar fees if caught. Was just in Zion, Utah and due to their extreme dry weather conditions banned camp fires and smoking while in the park and when I went to light up in my car to enjoy a smoke was advised that I could not smoke even in my car with the windows up. Funny thing was every day I was there we had thunderstorms dropping crap loads of rain!!
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Any time you receive a fund solicitation from any of these "no smoking" institutions just let them know you have insitituted a "no contribution" policy as a result--when they reverse themselves so will you.

If you are ambitious send a copy to each member of the Board of Trustees.

If you have contributed in the past make sure to let them know that as well.

What was that Jefferson quote--"Liberty, yours if you can keep it".
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Smokers are an easy target for those who really have deep seated hate, but want to come off as compassionate and caring. This is a common theme in Liberal America.

Just like welfare is meant to help people in their eyes, but it is really to subjugate and promote class difference by making one dependent on subsidy.
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You are so full of baloney Moses, its staggering. Lay off the politics please, folks.
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Originally Posted by OLS:
You are so full of baloney Moses, its staggering. Lay off the politics please, folks.

I don’t think this is full of baloney. Collegiate education is certainly left leaning and most initiatives like this are not for true public health or safety. If that was the case, I can think many things that would promote a healthier campus than banning smoking. Those making these decisions on what is allowed in one’s car is because they know what is better for you than you. Goes back to my classism and subjugation comment posted earlier.
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That's incredible that they do that and I know when I went to school in NC (small college called Elon) there were no such rules to my knowledge.

Outside of the new rules your describing, the one rule that has driven me nuts is when certain places have told me to put out my cigar and offered me a cigarette as some sort of equal value. I never understood places not allowing cigars but allowing cigarettes.
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Originally Posted by Geerawkz:
the one rule that has driven me nuts is when certain places have told me to put out my cigar and offered me a cigarette as some sort of equal value. I never understood places not allowing cigars but allowing cigarettes.

Never heard of that. How cavalier they are to just think they are both similar and you should be fine with that.

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Actually happened in a few different hotels, casinos and once on a cruise. Very frustrating!
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Originally Posted by Geerawkz:
Actually happened in a few different hotels, casinos and once on a cruise. Very frustrating!

One of the many reasons I won't travel anymore.
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