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Bruzee 06:53 PM 01-03-2009
I just saw that CI is offering "Banned Internet Brands". Here is their explaination of what a "Banned Internet Brand" is:

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...m=CS-ZKA&cat=3
What’s a "Banned Internet Brand" anyway? Well, it’s like this: once in a while cigar makers introduce a brand available to retailers on the condition that the retailer will not sell it via internet or catalog, instead only if they have "brick and mortar" retail shops. The reason that makers do this is either a) the brand is indeed too limited in production for a giant like CI, or b) to appease brick and mortar retailers who want to sell a brand with enormous profit margins without competing on price. 98% of the time the reason is b). Don’t get me wrong, most brick and mortar retailers are fine folks - some are personal friends - and they’re just trying to make a living. But our motto at CI is that what’s best for the customer is the answer.

What are your thoughts? Has anyone here tried this before? How good are the prices on some of these guys?
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icehog3 08:42 PM 01-03-2009
I have seen a bunch of the cigars listed sold on on-line retail sites. If the manufacturers were that strict, then how could CI do it (even without listing prices)?

Sounds like hype/crap to me. :-)
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elderboy02 08:51 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I have seen a bunch of the cigars listed sold on on-line retail sites. If the manufacturers were that strict, then how could CI do it (even without listing prices)?

Sounds like hype/crap to me. :-)
Yep. My thoughts exactly. CI is known for their hype. Every description of their cigars makes it sound like the cigar you are buying is the best on the face of the earth.
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lightning9191 08:58 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Yep. My thoughts exactly. CI is known for their hype. Every description of their cigars makes it sound like the cigar you are buying is the best on the face of the earth.
They're not???:-)
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Whee 09:05 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Yep. My thoughts exactly. CI is known for their hype. Every description of their cigars makes it sound like the cigar you are buying is the best on the face of the earth.

I beg to differ...
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...CB7050&cat=145

I crack up everytime I read this in the catalog.:-)
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j-easy 09:43 PM 01-03-2009
i love there fan mail too, i have yet to see them post it from anyone who didnt think it was the greatest cigar ever made. i mean i guess thats what it is "fan mail" but id much rather have something like the amazon.com reviews on stuff. honest reviews from customers
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Starscream 09:47 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by j-easy:
i love there fan mail too, i have yet to see them post it from anyone who didnt think it was the greatest cigar ever made. i mean i guess thats what it is "fan mail" but id much rather have something like the amazon.com reviews on stuff. honest reviews from customers
Check out the fan mail on these babies:

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...&stext=cremosa

:-):-):-)
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Whee 09:50 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by andysutherland:
Check out the fan mail on these babies:

http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...&stext=cremosa

:-):-):-)

Rp from Ohio says..."I was completely impressed with the amount of bloom on these cigars when I unwrapped them, and "...

Bloom?!? On a Cremosa?!?!:-)
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j-easy 09:52 PM 01-03-2009
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...stext=phillies

MM of Erie, PA
"These cigars (Phillies) are great. I love the smooth flavor of the peach blunts."
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Whee 10:01 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by j-easy:
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...stext=phillies

MM of Erie, PA
"These cigars (Phillies) are great. I love the smooth flavor of the peach blunts."

Duuuuude, these blunts are smoooooooooooth...:-)
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Starscream 10:05 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by j-easy:
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...stext=phillies

MM of Erie, PA
"These cigars (Phillies) are great. I love the smooth flavor of the peach blunts."
Do you think he smokes them straight up, or does he gut 'em and re-roll 'em?:-)
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gvarsity 10:30 PM 01-03-2009
The other thing is one of the cigars in the list RP olde world reserve is available on their website with prices so why would you bother to call...
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Bruzee 11:01 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by illinoishoosier:
I beg to differ...
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...CB7050&cat=145

I crack up everytime I read this in the catalog.:-)
Thats freakin' hilarious...... :-)

&

Cremosas??!!!??!???!?! :-)
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MikeyC 11:36 PM 01-03-2009
Originally Posted by illinoishoosier:
I beg to differ...
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...CB7050&cat=145

I crack up everytime I read this in the catalog.:-)
That's freekin' HILARIOUS. :-) :-) :-)

Originally Posted by icehog3:
I have seen a bunch of the cigars listed sold on on-line retail sites. If the manufacturers were that strict, then how could CI do it (even without listing prices)?

Sounds like hype/crap to me. :-)
:-)

I've bought some of those cigars listed from CI on c-bid. :-)
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elderboy02 12:49 AM 01-04-2009
Originally Posted by illinoishoosier:
I beg to differ...
http://www.cigarsinternational.com/p...CB7050&cat=145

I crack up everytime I read this in the catalog.:-)
:-) Group buy anyone? :-)
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Don Fernando 05:47 AM 01-04-2009
I just entered my Cremosa review as fan mail, don't think it will make it though.
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Skywalker 10:52 AM 01-04-2009
Even Thompsons runs many of these!!! Sorry... Hype!!!
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BlackIrish 12:45 PM 01-04-2009
Originally Posted by j-easy:
i love there fan mail too, i have yet to see them post it from anyone who didnt think it was the greatest cigar ever made. i mean i guess thats what it is "fan mail" but id much rather have something like the amazon.com reviews on stuff. honest reviews from customers
Long ago, when I first unwittingly ordered some crap sticks from CI, naively believing they hype that they were a good value stick, I submitted an honest (read: negative) review. I thought the reviews were like Amazon, where they wanted reviews, good or bad. I got an email back telling me that if I didn't like the cigars they'd take them back and give me a pro rata refund. The email made me chuckle, because the CSR seemed almost offended that I'd submitted a negative review. I took him up on the offer for a refund -- I appreciated that. But now I know not to believe any reviews on CI.
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Nimbus 01:47 PM 01-04-2009
I believe it is more hype and a marketing scheme than anything else. Now if they had some Anejos or Opus for MSRP then I would consider the sale legit.
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silentjon 05:32 PM 01-04-2009
Originally Posted by BlackIrish:
Long ago, when I first unwittingly ordered some crap sticks from CI, naively believing they hype that they were a good value stick, I submitted an honest (read: negative) review. I thought the reviews were like Amazon, where they wanted reviews, good or bad. I got an email back telling me that if I didn't like the cigars they'd take them back and give me a pro rata refund. The email made me chuckle, because the CSR seemed almost offended that I'd submitted a negative review. I took him up on the offer for a refund -- I appreciated that. But now I know not to believe any reviews on CI.
I never believe any of their reviews - always finding hidden "gems" in some forgotten warehouse. :-)
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