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pektel 12:22 PM 08-06-2013
About a societal trend that has started to bug me. I know most of us BOTL's are willing to lend a hand to those in need, as it seems like we have a different moral code. I was reminded yesterday of just how opposite the rest of the world can be at times.

I ran to Walmart after a very hectic work day. Had to get diapers, dog food, yadda yadda. Super Walmart is a big place, and always busy. Took me about 45 minutes to gather my items, and get out.

On the way to my car, I notice an older woman a few rows over with the hood open and a HAMMER in her hand. I zig zagged through the cars, cart and all, to see if I could help out. She let me know that she couldn't get the car started (obviously). She called her husband, and he told her the starter was going out, and to tap on it with a hammer. Of course I was wondering what she was doing on the TOP END of the engine compartment. I looked in to see that she had been beating on the AC compressor, shich she thought was the starter. :-)

I told her the location of the starter, and I crawled under with the hammer to tap on it while she tried turning the key. No dice. I thought maybe the starter was just done, and needed to be towed. But I asked if I could try to start it. She agreed, and I sat down in the driver's seat to take a look. I noticed that she had left the gear selector in drive. I put it in park, and it started right up.

When I told her, she started to cry. I just told her it happens, no biggie. She even tried to pay me, which of course I would never accept. She thanked me probably a million times, and I told her I was just glad to help out. And to avoid turning on the AC until she gets it checked out. She told me she had been out there for over 30 minutes, and not a SINGLE person stopped. 2 people even parked in the space next to her, and just ignored her completely.

As I'm walking back to my car, I started thinking. And I was saddened that more people out there would rather avoid/ignore than help. My children definitely aren't going to be raised that way.

I'm not telling this story for a "good for you" or an e-pat on the back. I find it should be a responsibility of those that can help, TO help. It SHOULD be that way. Especially with something as simple as helping someone with a car problem.

Okay, end rant.
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CigarSquid 12:27 PM 08-06-2013
Great job Peter. I do not always have the time to stop, but I try to make the time when I see things like that.

I have helped out on my road trips, vacation and just everyday life. I do it, it hope, if I am every in that situation, I will get someone like you/me to help out.

Again, great job on being a wonderful and helpful citizen.
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equetefue 12:27 PM 08-06-2013
Unfortunately this is the way things are now. Very unfortunate indeed. Society has lost both its innocent and way.

This is the reason I try so hard to mentor my children. Hopefully one day they will make a difference on someone's life the same way you did yesterday.
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CigarNut 12:27 PM 08-06-2013
Very cool thing for you to do Peter!

Unfortunately, many people today have learned from parents, friends and family that people in need of help are someone else's responsibility...
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Remo 12:41 PM 08-06-2013
Nice job Peter :-)

I think one of the reasons that many people choose not to help anyone anymore is because of our sue happy legal system, seems to me that woman could have sued you for breaking her starter by hitting on (just an example of our society these days).

And instead of our courts throwing out these suits right off the bat they allow them to go forward even though it is complete B.S. People may be exonerated down the road or the suit finally getting tossed but it is a pain and I am sure there is alot of angst involved!
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czerbe 12:52 PM 08-06-2013
Well done Pete and you are correct if you can help... you should
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big_jaygee 01:10 PM 08-06-2013
[quote=pektel;1870306]I'm not telling this story for a "good for you" or an e-pat on the back. I find it should be a responsibility of those that can help, TO help. It SHOULD be that way. Especially with something as simple as helping someone with a car problem./QUOTE]

i couldn't agree more and the line in bold sums everything up perfectly.

Thank you Peter for helping her.
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TJarv 01:11 PM 08-06-2013
You're one of the few left in this world Peter.

Working in the line of work I'm in I couldn't begin to tell you how many people I've seen people stuck on the roadside or hell even in the middle of the road, and people just drive around them or lay on their horn.

I like hearing that there are still some people left in this world that aren't too busy to lend a hand.
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aaron72 01:20 PM 08-06-2013
Good work.

You should thank your lucky stars that the ignition switch/gear selector safety system was working and it didn't start up while you were under there tapping the starter.
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T.G 01:22 PM 08-06-2013
This would never happen in the parking lot of a Target store.
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AdamJoshua 01:23 PM 08-06-2013
I'm the same way Pete, it never hurts to stop and help, another couple of minutes is not going to change my life drastically.


People Suck, true story.
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kelmac07 01:29 PM 08-06-2013
Kudos Peter!! True enough the society we live in has completely changed. Now, in some parts of America, if you stop to help somewhere, you run the risk of getting "schemed" and robbed. It's a sad state of affairs.

We need to continue to raise our children the right way...you nailed it with IF YOU CAN HELP, YOU HELP!!! One day that may be us in that parking lot.
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pektel 01:34 PM 08-06-2013
Originally Posted by Remo:
Nice job Peter :-)

I think one of the reasons that many people choose not to help anyone anymore is because of our sue happy legal system, seems to me that woman could have sued you for breaking her starter by hitting on (just an example of our society these days).

And instead of our courts throwing out these suits right off the bat they allow them to go forward even though it is complete B.S. People may be exonerated down the road or the suit finally getting tossed but it is a pain and I am sure there is alot of angst involved!
To me it would be a greater crime to not stop and help. The possibility of someone being so evil as to try something like that (which of course IS a real possiblity) is pretty small I would wager. But honestly, that's something I have no control over. That small possibility damn sure isn't going to make me NOT help someone.


Originally Posted by aaron72:
Good work.

You should thank your lucky stars that the ignition switch/gear selector safety system was working and it didn't start up while you were under there tapping the starter.
You ain't lyin'. That was one of my thoughts when I got in and saw it wasn't in park.

Originally Posted by T.G:
This would never happen in the parking lot of a Target store.
:-) Those patrons probably all have AAA.
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Sweet_Leaf_PDX 01:37 PM 08-06-2013
Way to go! I wish more people in our society had your attitude Pete. Unfortunately, many people are so wrapped up in themselves that they don't notice much around them.

Your case is the perfect example of someone just needing another person to care enough to stop and look at her situation. Even someone who knows very little about cars could have helped her out here.
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shilala 01:47 PM 08-06-2013
I am my brother's keeper.
I'm fortunate to have this brotherhood of like-minded people, and they're the top of the heap. But I have an entire brotherhood out there, and I'm still responsible for loving them, too.
Those people out there give me a lot of reason not to help, if I lump them all in one, big, unfair category. Fact is, I don't know which ones are like us. If I don't take what we do here and apply it out there, I haven't really done much.
It's real easy to love people who love me back. It's a real challenge to love people who just need loved with no thought of being loved in return, even though that's what usually happens.
It makes me smile to know that our brothers regularly do this kind of thing. It makes the world suck a lot less. :-)
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dave 01:56 PM 08-06-2013
I would have stopped, too. But, then I probably would have beat the crap out of the AC compressor. Good thing you were there.
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maninblack 02:25 PM 08-06-2013
Well done Peter. Glad to hear stories like this. Acts like this are rare and go unnoticed too many times.
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pektel 03:18 PM 08-06-2013
Originally Posted by shilala:
I am my brother's keeper.
I'm fortunate to have this brotherhood of like-minded people, and they're the top of the heap. But I have an entire brotherhood out there, and I'm still responsible for loving them, too.
Those people out there give me a lot of reason not to help, if I lump them all in one, big, unfair category. Fact is, I don't know which ones are like us. If I don't take what we do here and apply it out there, I haven't really done much.
It's real easy to love people who love me back. It's a real challenge to love people who just need loved with no thought of being loved in return, even though that's what usually happens.
It makes me smile to know that our brothers regularly do this kind of thing. It makes the world suck a lot less. :-)
Yes. This. In spades.
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jjirons69 03:43 PM 08-06-2013
Our service this past Sunday was on "Who is my brother?" It was this in a nutshell. As Scott said, I am my brother's keeper. To get by in this world, you've had folks look out for you most of your life, paying it forward is what keeps us all civilized and harmonious. Now I would never tell anyone to pick up that random hitchhiker, the chance something could go wrong is too great, especially as I have a wife and two kids that depend on me daily. But there are a lot of things out there all of us can do.

Yesterday I noticed a teenager pull in front of me as I was going to the gym. He did nothing wrong, but I did notice his rear passenger tire was very slack. When I parked I waited on him, but he sat in the vehicle. I was late for my racquetball game, but I eventually walked over to him, startling him in the process, and told him what I saw. He was very grateful. I asked him did he need a hand and he said, no. An hour later as I was leaving, a tire service company was down there fixing his issue. Like Peter said, no hand-pat, it was just the correct thing to do. Had it been my kid, I would not have wanted him to leave and go flying down the road with a tire that was in sub-standard shape.

Thanks for reminding the world to do the right thing, Peter!
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Coach Deg 04:03 PM 08-06-2013
Originally Posted by dave:
I would have stopped, too. But, then I probably would have beat the crap out of the AC compressor. Good thing you were there.
HAHAHA Me Too.

I help when I can, even just if to make a call. And I hope someone will do the same if my wife or parents are in need.
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