Bad Finger 12:59 PM 07-10-2011
Just thought I'd ask as I was wondering this this morning. Now, I'm not talking about suppliers or importers, but I'm talking about individual smokers.
What is the fine for CC's? Maybe our brothers in blue here can tell us what the code is and what they do if they find them (other than lose them somehow on the way to the station...hehehee).
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Not that I am aware of, but a fine of $250 per stick can be imposed. That's on top of the money lost from the order.
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Bad Finger 01:04 PM 07-10-2011
So has anyone ever been fined?
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NCRadioMan 01:13 PM 07-10-2011
Never heard of anyone arrested and the fine can depend on how much you bought.
EDIT: From poker's links below, definitely arrests from re-sales inside the states but from anyone ordering from a vendor, I have never heard of it.
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With civil penalty releases completed for 2010, only one transaction for the unauthorized purchase of Cuban cigars over the Internet was levied, back in March. The transaction took place in late 2004 or early 2005 and the individual cited paid a fine of $525. That was it for the entire year.
The one fine equaled the 2009 total, where only a single purchaser - again in late 2004 or early 2005 - was hit with a penalty of $1,175.
By contrast, OFAC issued 27 penalties in 2008 for a total of $39,763.08, nearly double the 14 penalties issued in 2007 (for $20,330.70).
http://www.cigarcyclopedia.com/news-...cigars-in-2010
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poker 01:17 PM 07-10-2011
Tyler 01:39 PM 07-10-2011
Old but still valid:
http://articles.latimes.com/1997-04-...1_cuban-cigars
Department of Homeland Security:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/cl...ban_cigars.xml
Brief quote from their website:
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It is also illegal for U.S. persons to buy, sell, trade, or otherwise engage in transactions involving illegally-imported Cuban cigars. The penalties for doing so include, in addition to confiscation of the cigars, civil fines of up to $55,000 per violation and in appropriate cases, criminal prosecution which may result in higher fines and/or imprisonment.
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Bad Finger 02:07 PM 07-10-2011
So from what I take from those links is that unless you are intending to profit from contraband, the feds aren't overly concerned with individual consumption.
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dwoodward 02:18 PM 07-10-2011
From what I understand, having CC's on you for personal consumption is fine. If you intent to sell them, that's a huge no no. I have no idea on the punishment but I am sure you would be fine if you just had one with you and were smoking it. I doubt most police would have a clue the difference between a CC and NC anyway.
That's just my 2cents.
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icehog3 02:22 PM 07-10-2011
Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.
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poker 02:24 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by Bad Finger:
So from what I take from those links is that unless you are intending to profit from contraband, the feds aren't overly concerned with individual consumption.
Probably true but I would hate to be the one they wanted to set an example with.
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Originally Posted by icehog3:
Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.
+1 if i stop a guy and he has a box of CC on the passenger seat i could care less if they are real or where he got them.
hell i might ask him is hes a member of CA
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Zeuceone 03:54 PM 07-10-2011
The police always let you go with a warning but they consficate the "evidence".
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Dunkel 03:56 PM 07-10-2011
Yeah right Frank. You'd confiscate them and "let him off with a warning". LOL
Great minds, huh Zuece? LOL
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icehog3 04:05 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by Zeuceone:
The police always let you go with a warning but they consficate the "evidence".
Not a chance.
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Lol that would be sweet Doug and G but I like my job so I'll just get me own box hahaha
Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha
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kydsid 04:49 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Police don't enforce the embargo. Federal agencies do.
Agency. Only one has authority to enforce the embargo.
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kydsid 04:52 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by dwoodward:
From what I understand, having CC's on you for personal consumption is fine.
From the standpoint of the law that is incorrect.
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pektel 05:47 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by Drez:
Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha:-)
Ya know, a while ago I actually stopped halfway home to put a box of partagas shorts in the trunk that up until then were sitting on the passenger seat lol.
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Bad Finger 06:00 PM 07-10-2011
Originally Posted by Drez:
Lol that would be sweet Doug and G but I like my job so I'll just get me own box hahaha
Plus not to many people driving around with a box of boli or party's on there passenger seats hahaha:-)
Gotta keep an eye out for those Maybachs. I hear they have built in humis.
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