Here's the situation, my 16 year old daughter wants to go to the Warped Tour by Kansas City July 6.
Not a problem, she wanted to take her friend so the wife and I are going to drive them up for her birthday present.
Now she wants to being along her boyfriend, I'll call him Slug to be nice. I don't like Slug, he knows I don't like him. The wife asked me if he could come and I said no way.
Now it'll cause drama if I tell the girl, no your boyfriend can't come with us.
So do I man up, take the high road and tale him along to keep the peace or just stick to my original position and probably let the wife drive them and I go to work like normal that day?
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Glad I don't have kids!

I guess it depends on why you don't like him.
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Do you trust your daughter?
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16 years old, no. Maybe in about 15 years he can go with you. :-)
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If you are going to be with them at all times, then sure. If you don't like him and they are going to have a lot of "alone" time, then NO.
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I'm not concerned about hanky panky or anything like that. There would be three altogether and not a big deal.
His mom married into a family that owns a dealership, he's spoiled, lazy, and I don't care for him.
He never shook my hand or introduced himself, he was afraid to come up and try to talk to me when I was sitting outside in the lawn with a cigar and drink.
And hopefully the days on this puppy live relationship are numbered but likely not until after July 6.
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Here's what I'd say and I'm pretty sure it's the same thing I would've heard at that age. Me speaking, "The agreement was you and your friend were going for your birthday present. I have no problems with that. That's what we agreed on. I have a feeling Slug doesn't like the idea of you going off without him or something like that, but him going was not part of our initial agreement. You have the same choices as you had last week, you and 'Emily' can go and we'll be happy to take you two or you can stay home with us and we'll celebrate your birthday at home. I'll support either decision."

I think that's fair. At 16 I would've thought it sucked, but at 16, I'd be happy to go with my best friend.

It was never said at my house and I don't plan on saying it to my kids, but you knew it was their roof and the final decision for anything was in their hands (their = parents).
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I would let him go, but read him this:

Ten Simple Rules for
Dating My Daughter


Rule One:
If you pull into my driveway and honk, you'd better be delivering a package, because you're sure not picking anything up.

Rule Two:
You do not touch my daughter in front of me. You may glance at her, so long as you do not peer at anything below her neck. If you cannot keep your eyes or hands off of my daughter's body, I will remove them.

Rule Three:
I am aware that it is considered fashionable for boys of your age to wear their trousers so loosely that they appear to be falling off their hips. Please don't take this as an insult, but you and all of your friends are complete idiots. Still, I want to be fair and open minded about this issue, so I propose his compromise: You may come to the door with your underwear showing and your pants ten sizes too big, and I will not object. However, in order to ensure that your clothes do not, in fact, come off during the course of your date with my daughter, I will take my electric nail gun and fasten your trousers securely in place to your waist.

Rule Four:
I'm sure you've been told that in today's world, sex without utilizing a "barrier method" of some kind can kill you. Let me elaborate: when it comes to sex, I am the barrier, and I will kill you.

Rule Five:
In order for us to get to know each other, you may think we should talk about sports, politics, and other issues of the day. Please do not do this. The only information I require from you is an indication of when you expect to have my daughter safely back at my house, and the only word I need from you on his subject is "early."

Rule Six:
I have no doubt you are a popular fellow, with many opportunities to date other girls. This is fine with me as long as it is okay with my daughter. Otherwise, once you have gone out with my little girl, you will continue to date no one but her until she is finished with you. If you make her cry, I will make you cry.

Rule Seven:
As you stand in my front hallway, waiting for my daughter to appear, and more than an hour goes by, do not sigh and fidget. If you want to be on time for the movie, you should not be dating. My daughter is putting on her makeup, a process that can take longer than painting the Golden Gate Bridge. Instead of just standing there, why don't you do something useful, like changing the oil in my car?

Rule Eight:
The following places are not appropriate for a date with my daughter: Places where there are beds, sofas, or anything softer than a wooden stool. Places where there are no parents, policemen, or nuns within eyesight. Places where there is darkness. Places where there is dancing, holding hands, or happiness. Places where the ambient temperature is warm enough to induce my Daughter to wear shorts, tank tops, midriff T-shirts, or anything other than overalls, a sweater, and a goose down parka zipped up to her throat. Movies with a strong romantic or sexual theme are to be avoided. Movies, which feature chainsaws, are okay. Hockey games are okay. Old folks homes are better.

Rule Nine:
Do not lie to me. I may appear to be a pot-bellied, balding, middle-aged, dim-witted has-been. But on issues relating to my daughter, I am the all-knowing, merciless god of your universe. If I ask you where you are going and with whom, you have one chance to tell me the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I have a shotgun, a shovel, and five acres behind the house. Do not trifle with me.

Rule Ten:
Be afraid. Be very afraid. It takes very little for me to mistake the sound of your car in the driveway for a chopper coming in over a rice paddy outside of Hanoi. When my Agent Orange starts acting up, the voices in my head frequently tell me to clean the guns as I wait for you to bring my daughter home. As soon as you pull into the driveway you should exit your car with both hands in plain sight. Speak the perimeter password, announce in a clear voice that you have brought my daughter home safely and early, then return to your car - there is no need for you to come inside. The camouflaged face at the window is mine.
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^ Or this will work, too :-)
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Love the rules:-)
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Just stick to your guns. He will probably just meet them there anyway.
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Noted for future reference. My daughter is nearly 2.. ill need this in about 20 years.
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It may not be the best thing in the world for you at the time, but several hours together in a car may just be the ticket to drive them apart.
BTW let us know if you have some free time in while you are in the area.
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Will do!
Is there a cigar shop around Bonner Springs?
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+1 :-)
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Not too far away is Outlaw North

And I would say nope... he can't go with us... but that's just the dad of a 4 yr old girl talking
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Tell the daughter the he can go along - if , and only if the boyfriend comes to you, asks if he can come along, after introducing himself, shaking your hand and spending a little time talking to you.

If he cannot do that, then no, he cannot go along.

I had a girl I dated for about a year while in high school, her dad and I became very close. When she and I broke up, he and I still did stuff together on occasion.

Man cannot face the father, he doesn't deserve to date the daughter.

And yeah, I know the rules are meant to be humorous - but there is much to be said for the truthes contained therein.

Peace of the Lord be with you.
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Around the area Andy there is Outlaw - North and South locations, Diebels on the Plaza and their south store in Leawood and Cigar&Tabac in Overland Park. All are a little drive from Bonner unfortunately.
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Okay here are two examples of why you gotta watch out for your daughters, even if they are right next to you.

I know "somebody" that was 15 and received an HJ from his girlfriend while riding in the back seat of her family car, while her mom was driving. On another occasion this "somebody" got an HJ from her again while watching a movie in the living room of her house while watching the movie IT, her mom was in the other room cooking dinner.

Lesson for parents:
Don't trust boys and girls, they are always up to no good.


Note: Maybe Slug didn't talk to you because you scare him, fear goes a long way at preventing premature HJ's!

I hope this wasn't too racy! Sorry if it was.
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[quote=Subvet642;1309524]I would let him go, but read him this:

Ten Simple Rules for
Dating My Daughter

LOVE the rules but I still vote for NO slug...:-)
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