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lyle23 10:16 PM 01-12-2011
I placed an order for some cigars from a company that is supposed to be a reputable distributer. Company will remain nameless for a reason. My order was shipped out on the 7th of december and it has yet to arrive. I have tried time and time again to contact said company and their customer service department insists on continuiously giving me the big finger. They refuse to even give me a "hey we are looking into it" email. That is what is really irking me the most. Even if they tell me at this point im out of luck, fine soo be it, just acknowlege there is a problem. I just contacted them a 6th time. Lets see how this email goes no where. End rant.
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hotreds 10:24 PM 01-12-2011
Good/great customer service should be a given, instead it is a rare thing- I've been ripped off to the tune of $1600 by a company who realize I have no recourse, bottom line. So, believe me, I know hbow you feel, brother!
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EricF 10:25 PM 01-12-2011
Just a thought, Did you try to call them? Most companies have customer reps that work past 5pm for us working folks.

Couldn't hurt. Good luck Kevin!
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jesseboston81 10:28 PM 01-12-2011
Did they ever send you a tracking number? Any chance it could be a problem with the shipping company?
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Bill86 10:36 PM 01-12-2011
This is no good to hear, assuming it isn't anything Cuban I'm not sure it is against the rules to post a bad experience. A say out the vendor.
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elderboy02 10:42 PM 01-12-2011
Out the vendor. You wouldn't want other people to get screwed, would ya?
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Neens 10:54 PM 01-12-2011
If you haven't tried calling I would go for that. It's going to be faster and they can't put off a phone call like they can an e-mail.
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dwoodward 11:26 PM 01-12-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Out the vendor. You wouldn't want other people to get screwed, would ya?
:-)

Unless you ordered cubans, then I think it would be safe to assume they got stopped by TSA coming into the country since they now X RAY any package over a certain weight.
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loki 11:30 PM 01-12-2011
Originally Posted by dwoodward:
:-)

Unless you ordered cubans, then I think it would be safe to assume they got stopped by TSA coming into the country since they now X RAY any package over a certain weight.
customs, not tsa. lets place our hate for government agencies at the right one
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bobarian 12:32 AM 01-13-2011
This kind of post is pretty useless. If you are unwilling to name the retailer then why bother to post? If you are unable to name the vendor due to the constraints of this forum, then I still dont see how this is constructive. :-)

There are always ways to protect yourself, if you failed to use the means available to you then I dont see the problem.

If you chose to violate the law then you also chose to accept the consequences of that action.

If I am mistaken in my assumptions then I apologize, but your vagueness only leads to speculation. :-)
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OLS 07:17 AM 01-13-2011
I agree that not naming the vendor is good decorum, we get a ton of rants each year where the guy
sitting at home bears as much blame as the vendor, and yet once the cat is out of the bag, it's too late,
the vendor is "bashed" over something that is more of a newbie customer mistake. BUT as Bob said, if you
go to the trouble of making a new thread, but won't reveal the vendor, nor share any details, then what
was the point? We can't even slap you on the back and say, "buck up little camper" because we have
no idea of what happened.

Let me tell you what happens to ME. I get mad, send a surly email, then send a less surly, slightly apologetic email,
then I send one saying "Look, I apologized, why are you still being a di(K?" It's like the scene in Swingers.
You may be being ignored while your situation is resolved because they don't like your attitude, lol.
Hope it works out.
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pnoon 07:39 AM 01-13-2011
Originally Posted by dwoodward:
:-)

Unless you ordered cubans, then I think it would be safe to assume they got stopped by TSA coming into the country since they now X RAY any package over a certain weight.
I think what you meant to say is "IF you ordered Cubans"
As loki said, TSA does not deal with the packages coming into the country.
As for the X ray practices, your post is meaningless unless you know how much his parcel weighed. "Safe to assume they got stopped"? Not likely.
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pnoon 07:47 AM 01-13-2011
Originally Posted by bobarian:
This kind of post is pretty useless. If you are unwilling to name the retailer then why bother to post? If you are unable to name the vendor due to the constraints of this forum, then I still dont see how this is constructive. :-)

There are always ways to protect yourself, if you failed to use the means available to you then I dont see the problem.

If you chose to violate the law then you also chose to accept the consequences of that action.

If I am mistaken in my assumptions then I apologize, but your vagueness only leads to speculation. :-)
Your post is filled with wisdom, Bob.
However, I think the OP was just looking to rant a bit as opposed to looking for advice on how to deal with the situation.

Originally Posted by OLS:
I agree that not naming the vendor is good decorum, we get a ton of rants each year where the guy
sitting at home bears as much blame as the vendor, and yet once the cat is out of the bag, it's too late,
the vendor is "bashed" over something that is more of a newbie customer mistake.
:-)
I'm not saying this is the case here. It may or may not be.
Just agreeing with the general statement.
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CigarNut 09:04 AM 01-13-2011
If this is not just a rant and you are indeed looking for advice, I would do what others have suggested and try a phone call. You often reach different people by phone than by email...

No need to post the vendor's name; you stated that they are a reputable vendor so it sounds like your experience is not typical and posting the name will only do them harm.
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mpd340 09:31 AM 01-13-2011
Sure glad I havn't run into this problem yet.
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Sled Dog 09:40 AM 01-13-2011
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience somewhere. I know being a retailer, sometimes things are totally out of your control. We had a few orders this Christmas season where the order went out the same day via UPS, we provided the tracking number, and the shipment was listed as "delivered"... only to have the customers tell us they never received it. Without a required signature on some packages, there really is no recourse against UPS to say it wasn't actually delivered. The only thing we could do is just bite the bullet and resend new products with it being signature required. It's not the customers fault, it's not our fault, and I guess its not UPS fault.... sometimes things just happen. I know if I paid for an order and for whatever reason I didn't get it, I would want it made right somehow.
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JJG 10:51 AM 01-13-2011
Originally Posted by Sled Dog:
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience somewhere. I know being a retailer, sometimes things are totally out of your control. We had a few orders this Christmas season where the order went out the same day via UPS, we provided the tracking number, and the shipment was listed as "delivered"... only to have the customers tell us they never received it. Without a required signature on some packages, there really is no recourse against UPS to say it wasn't actually delivered. The only thing we could do is just bite the bullet and resend new products with it being signature required. It's not the customers fault, it's not our fault, and I guess its not UPS fault.... sometimes things just happen. I know if I paid for an order and for whatever reason I didn't get it, I would want it made right somehow.
agreed 100%

Things happen all the time that are outside of a vendor's control. Just the other day I was watching a video about how the rise of online purchasing has led to a rash of "front porch thievery" Especially around this time of the year, crooks will simply drive down the street looking for boxes left by UPS/USPS that they can walk off with.

Like you said, it's how a vendor deals with these types of inevitable circumstances that distinguishes them as a company who cares about customer service.

I'm not saying the vendor always has to bite the bullet when packages get lost/stolen, but at least SOME sort of response or acknowledgment seems like the least they could do.
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BC-Axeman 11:26 AM 01-13-2011
I ordered a new dishwasher a month ago from Sears. They called in two weeks to say come pick it up and when I got there they couldn't find it. Their records said it was there but it wasn't. They said they would give me a $50 discount and reordered it. Here, two weeks later, again they left a message and said it didn't arrive and it will be here next week. I was getting ready to call and fume at them when I noticed they didn't give me a $50 discount, it was $100. I'm torn now. I so wanted to grouch them out.
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T.G 11:45 AM 01-13-2011
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
I ordered a new dishwasher a month ago from Sears. They called in two weeks to say come pick it up and when I got there they couldn't find it. Their records said it was there but it wasn't. They said they would give me a $50 discount and reordered it. Here, two weeks later, again they left a message and said it didn't arrive and it will be here next week. I was getting ready to call and fume at them when I noticed they didn't give me a $50 discount, it was $100. I'm torn now. I so wanted to grouch them out.
So they planned ahead for a second screw up.

Awesome proactive move by Sears!

(glass half full)
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massphatness 11:45 AM 01-13-2011
I few more re-orders, Lance, and you'll get that thing for free!
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