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General Discussion>Supplements you use- bodybuilding/weightloss
hotreds 08:01 PM 01-06-2011
Looks like various threads mention these, but going thru several hundred pages to find them is excessive. So, what supplements do you take? There are SO many available, and probably 90% thin only your wallet. Any inmates have success taking supplements?
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icehog3 08:41 PM 01-06-2011
Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?
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T.G 08:48 PM 01-06-2011
"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds
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shvictor 09:53 PM 01-06-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?
I'm interested in weightloss also?
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hotreds 09:58 PM 01-06-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Hugh, which are you interested in, bodybuilding or weightloss?
Both, actually, don't think they need be mutually exclusive.
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jmsremax 10:17 PM 01-06-2011
Another serious question....do you want to gain mass naturally or with enhancers?

There are PHs, creatine, or simple whey isolates that can work with the proper diet, but some are more extreme/quicker results. Same question in regards to your goals for weight loss. I assume you are planning on bulking up in the winter and leaning out for summer?
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kaisersozei 10:29 PM 01-06-2011
I've never been a fat guy, but I converted significant fat % and gained muscle mass with a combination of whey isolate protein & NO-Xplode (a nitric oxide + creatine + amino acid + caffeine vasodilator), also supplemented with a multivitamin 2x/day. All while doing intense cardio and strength workouts 6x/week on a 2600 calorie/day nutrition plan.

And I stopped drinking beer Sun-Thurs for a year. That was probably the biggest "supplement" I didn't take that did the trick!
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jmsremax 10:34 PM 01-06-2011
NO Xplode is a great intro into creatine however it can be an issue for some due to the caffeine. Limiting consumption of alcohol is one of the best ways to lose weight.
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Bill86 11:33 PM 01-06-2011
Originally Posted by T.G:
"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds
So if I juice that stuff like 3x a day I can break the home run record? :-) :-) :-) Does it work for say ....hockey or basketball? Or is it a strictly baseball thing?

Jokes aside I would also like to know what everyone takes for the same weightloss/muscle mass gain. I need to lose about 15-20 pounds of pure beer weight.
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T.G 12:03 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by Bill86:
So if I juice that stuff like 3x a day I can break the home run record? :-) :-) :-) Does it work for say ....hockey or basketball? Or is it a strictly baseball thing?
I dunno, but your hat band size can go up by 1-3/4 and your shoes by 4....
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Krish the Fish 12:11 AM 01-07-2011
When I'm working out, I usually just use ON 100% Whey and Animal Packs. I have the ON 100% Casein and Animal Cuts, but I had enough protein through my diet that I didn't need the casein, and Animal Cuts never really did much for me.

When I get back into p90x, I might get NO-xplod just to see how much improvement I get. :-)
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mariogolbee 12:17 AM 01-07-2011
The common answer here seems to be cardio, lifting, diet (not dieting), and a strict regimen. I have taken several biology, anatomy, and physiology classes, and one intense nutrition class geared for the medical profession, and all of these would agree with this common answer. There are few supplements that can do for you what proper nutrition, your own body, and proper exercise cannot. In fact, most supplements, protein especially, can be quite harmful, and none of them work without exercise and proper nutrition.
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druturn 12:47 AM 01-07-2011
I am SURE I will get flak on this, but let me say this first before I say what I have just started taking: I am on a diet and exercise plan that I built myself that consists of sticking to about a 2,000 calories per day limit and working out for 1-2 hours daily with one hour of cardio and one hour of weightlifting. Just a few days ago I decided to just try out Hydroxycut. I am NOT taking this in hopes of it being a "magical weightloss pill", I am merely taking it in addition to my diet and exercise plan to see if it helps curb my appetite and aid me in keeping to my daily caloric intake. I have read hundreds of positive and negative reviews of this stuff and have simply decided to try it for myself. I figured a $15 investment for 1-2 months supply of this stuff is worth it if it helps, and if it doesn't, well, Hydroxycut just earned a one-time buyer. I'll let you know if a few weeks to a month if it is working out for me!
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icehog3 01:07 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by hotreds:
Both, actually, don't think they need be mutually exclusive.
I have never used a supplement for weight loss, so I don't want to confuse the conversation with my choices of supplements, Hugh. You might get more specific advice if you let us know what your goals are, short term and long term.
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Coach Deg 06:29 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by mariogolbee:
The common answer here seems to be cardio, lifting, diet (not dieting), and a strict regimen. I have taken several biology, anatomy, and physiology classes, and one intense nutrition class geared for the medical profession, and all of these would agree with this common answer. There are few supplements that can do for you what proper nutrition, your own body, and proper exercise cannot. In fact, most supplements, protein especially, can be quite harmful, and none of them work without exercise and proper nutrition.
I have been coaching football and weightlifting for 20+ years. I have a degree in phys Ed as well as a biology degree. As Mario said there is not a supplement that works without exercise and proper diet. Also remember the supplement industry is not regulated by the FDA. Advocare is the only company that submits their products to the FDA. They also have a line that is approved by the NFL and NCAA( this is why they can sponsor a bowl game). I do not sponsor, work for, or use advocare. I just have to be up to date and informed whe kids and parents ask. So please becareful. And good-luck!
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mosesbotbol 06:40 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by T.G:
"HGH works great!"

(signed)
-B*rry B*nds
If you got a least 6 months, not needle adverse, and have a $600 a month budget. Testosterone is more effective and can raise HGH levels as well.

I don't think Bonds used HGH, just steroids? HGH would give him fat loss which it appears did not happen to him.

Originally Posted by kaisersozei:
And I stopped drinking beer Sun-Thurs for a year. That was probably the biggest "supplement" I didn't take that did the trick!
Dropping the booze is a big time weight loser! I drew a line in the sand, and the booze stays!
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ABNMP619 06:59 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by mariogolbee:
The common answer here seems to be cardio, lifting, diet (not dieting), and a strict regimen. I have taken several biology, anatomy, and physiology classes, and one intense nutrition class geared for the medical profession, and all of these would agree with this common answer. There are few supplements that can do for you what proper nutrition, your own body, and proper exercise cannot. In fact, most supplements, protein especially, can be quite harmful, and none of them work without exercise and proper nutrition.
I agree cold heartly with Mario here. A couple comments and my :-) here. As a drill sergeant I learned that the biggest part of weight loss was the intake of water. Cut out all soda and replace with juices and water. Staying away from fried foods as well helped a lot of my overweight Soldiers in training. A good work out plan; monitored by a physician, can help as well. Bottomline is this...Don't take any supplements if you do not plan on conducting routine exercise. It will be useless and will cost you tons of money. A light regimen of walking at various degrees of difficulty on a treadmill is an excellent start to getting back in shape.

As for me, my supplements include Ventilean (oral fat burner) and Muscle Tech products (Cell Tech and Nitro Tech). All work very well. You MUST stay hydrated!!! :-)
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mosesbotbol 07:37 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by ABNMP619:
I agree cold heartly with Mario here. A couple comments and my :-) here. As a drill sergeant I learned that the biggest part of weight loss was the intake of water.
How much water do you recommend daily? I have heard 1 oz. water per 1 lb. of body weight from a few people.

A friend of mine was a Marine now Yoga Instructor. He mixes drill sgt. style into his classes.
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Knip23 08:01 AM 01-07-2011
Ok for weightloss, works everytime have had no issues I even perscribe it for my fat body soldiers is.....
TIGHT eXtream (its a thermalgenic fat burner) which means it burns the fat from the inside out. Now while taking it you can eat the same way you have been, and will still drop weight. I went from 198 back down to 165 in about a month. The way you use it is take 1 I mean 1 pill for the first 2 days then the shakyness will stop. After that 2 pills daily untill you reachyour desireed weight. It is the 2nd cousin to meth or atleast you feel like it. It doesn't matter how old you are you will feel 18 again.

Sann.net is where you get Tight from.

Now after that your perfect combo of supplements is

Isopure protien (pure protien)
Halodrol liquidgels
BCAA
NANO 9X Hardcore.

If you have some Q's pm me I can answer all.

Knip.
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jmsremax 08:16 AM 01-07-2011
Just an fyi.....halodrol is not for beginners and I wouldn't recommend this to anyone who hasn't taken a PH before. This is not a smart/safe route to build muscle to anyone who is just starting out. This, like any PH cycle, can get quite harsh. Knip, I hope you are taking liver detox pills as well.
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