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Any F1 Fans out there? Looks like its gonna be one helluva year.

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First Practice Results from Bahrain are interesting.

2010 FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX

Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps

1 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes Benz GP Ltd 1:55.409 23

2 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:55.854 0.445 22

3 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes Benz GP Ltd 1:55.903 0.494 23

4 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:56.076 0.667 28

5 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:56.459 1.050 18

6 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:56.501 1.092 26

7 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:56.555 1.146 30

8 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:56.750 1.341 26

9 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:57.140 1.731 25

10 22 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.255 1.846 24

11 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:57.352 1.943 27

12 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:57.361 1.952 29

13 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:57.452 2.043 21

14 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:57.833 2.424 29

15 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1:58.155 2.746 29

16 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:59.799 4.390 31

17 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 2:00.444 5.035 12

18 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.873 5.464 23

19 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 2:00.990 5.581 14

20 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.037 6.628 3

21 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 2:02.188 6.779 21

22 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 2:06.968 11.559 17

23 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari No time 1

24 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth No time 0
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Yeah, I think it will be a fun season. The DVR is set to record all this weekends events :-)
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Big fan here! Also a big fan of MotoGp!
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Ive gotta hold back from watching qualifying on the DVR.
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Pretty good race at Bahrain this past weekend. Looks like there is a real solid platoon in the top 8 and they all have a legit chance at winning the championship. I do like all the new rule changes this year. I CAN NOT beleive how fast those pit stops are now. Damn they are quick in and quick out!
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Originally Posted by smitdavi:
Pretty good race at Bahrain this past weekend. Looks like there is a real solid platoon in the top 8 and they all have a legit chance at winning the championship. I do like all the new rule changes this year. I CAN NOT beleive how fast those pit stops are now. Damn they are quick in and quick out!

When I visit my folks this weekend I plan to watch a little of this. I don't get SPEED at my place and they do plus they have DVR. Can't wait!
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See I think the new rules ruin what should have been the best season in years. While previous years had the predictable strategy's based on fuel weights dictating a 1 or 2 stop race, at least there was real racing in between stops because you didn't have to conserve fuel or nurse your way around on tires that were shot because of the higher car weight in the first half of the race. The fact that lap times stayed the same or lengthened towards the end of the race when they should have gotten faster as the fuel weights dropped to me says this concept simply isn't working. If Vettel hadn't cracked his exhaust it would have been nothing more than a parade from pole to pole :-)

I think you'll find this no refueling nonsense disappears after this year because it's going to produce a pretty boring season (unless of course someone runs out of fuel at say Loews, Portier or Rascasse and stuffs the race for the entire field by blocking the track). Hopefully they bring back fueling next year but change the rules so that Whiting and the rest of the marshals know everyone's fuel weights at the end of qualy but none of the teams do. That would eliminate the set strategy where you know exactly what laps your main competitors are going to pit on and force the teams to craft individual strategy's then adapt to each other's plans as the race unfolds.

I miss the mad days of F1 when you could do whatever your budget could suffer and the minds in your factory could come up with to make the car faster instead of this BS legacy of over-regulation and idiocy that Mosley has cursed the sport with.

:-) Of course F1 is still much much more entertaining than watching a bunch of people turn their steering wheels to the left and drive round in a massed circle for several hours! WRC is the only remaining true form of real racing left to us at this stage :-)
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Originally Posted by mithrilG60:
See I think the new rules ruin what should have been the best season in years. While previous years had the predictable strategy's based on fuel weights dictating a 1 or 2 stop race, at least there was real racing in between stops because you didn't have to conserve fuel or nurse your way around on tires that were shot because of the higher car weight in the first half of the race. The fact that lap times stayed the same or lengthened towards the end of the race when they should have gotten faster as the fuel weights dropped to me says this concept simply isn't working. If Vettel hadn't cracked his exhaust it would have been nothing more than a parade from pole to pole :-)

I think you'll find this no refueling nonsense disappears after this year because it's going to produce a pretty boring season (unless of course someone runs out of fuel at say Loews, Portier or Rascasse and stuffs the race for the entire field by blocking the track). Hopefully they bring back fueling next year but change the rules so that Whiting and the rest of the marshals know everyone's fuel weights at the end of qualy but none of the teams do. That would eliminate the set strategy where you know exactly what laps your main competitors are going to pit on and force the teams to craft individual strategy's then adapt to each other's plans as the race unfolds.

I miss the mad days of F1 when you could do whatever your budget could suffer and the minds in your factory could come up with to make the car faster instead of this BS legacy of over-regulation and idiocy that Mosley has cursed the sport with. :-) Of course F1 is still much much more entertaining than watching a bunch of people turn their steering wheels to the left and drive round in a massed circle for several hours! WRC is the only remaining true form of real racing left to us at this stage :-)

+1, I completly agree. The race was fun to watch but very boring from the previous years.
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Originally Posted by mithrilG60:
See I think the new rules ruin what should have been the best season in years. While previous years had the predictable strategy's based on fuel weights dictating a 1 or 2 stop race, at least there was real racing in between stops because you didn't have to conserve fuel or nurse your way around on tires that were shot because of the higher car weight in the first half of the race. The fact that lap times stayed the same or lengthened towards the end of the race when they should have gotten faster as the fuel weights dropped to me says this concept simply isn't working. If Vettel hadn't cracked his exhaust it would have been nothing more than a parade from pole to pole :-)

I think you'll find this no refueling nonsense disappears after this year because it's going to produce a pretty boring season (unless of course someone runs out of fuel at say Loews, Portier or Rascasse and stuffs the race for the entire field by blocking the track). Hopefully they bring back fueling next year but change the rules so that Whiting and the rest of the marshals know everyone's fuel weights at the end of qualy but none of the teams do. That would eliminate the set strategy where you know exactly what laps your main competitors are going to pit on and force the teams to craft individual strategy's then adapt to each other's plans as the race unfolds.

I miss the mad days of F1 when you could do whatever your budget could suffer and the minds in your factory could come up with to make the car faster instead of this BS legacy of over-regulation and idiocy that Mosley has cursed the sport with. :-) Of course F1 is still much much more entertaining than watching a bunch of people turn their steering wheels to the left and drive round in a massed circle for several hours! WRC is the only remaining true form of real racing left to us at this stage :-)

:-) +2

I'm excited that the season just kicked off, but it seems like every year there are more and more ridiculous regulations. I miss the old 10 cylinder days when engines weren’t really rev limited and teams didn’t have silly aero restrictions to abide by. Refueling definitely adds more strategy to the race and pressure on the crews to execute during pitstops.

Anyway, I’m happy that my cable provider finally carries Speed TV in HD!! Here’s to a good season. :-)
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Red Bull on Ice

Plus Montreal's back on the circuit this year!!!

:-) How much fun do you think Beumi had filming this, at least Red Bull still does mad things :-)
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Originally Posted by mithrilG60:
Red Bull on Ice

:-)
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Anyone staying up to watch the race tonight? I've got the DVR set to record. Will watch it first thing tomorrow morning. What's the grid look like for tomorrow?
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When are these races on TV? I want to check it out.
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Originally Posted by kgoings:
When are these races on TV? I want to check it out.

Usually early Sunday morning. IE the race tonight is on at 1 AM I believe on Speed. It is usually rerun mid afternoon too.
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Originally Posted by smitdavi:
Anyone staying up to watch the race tonight? I've got the DVR set to record. Will watch it first thing tomorrow morning. What's the grid look like for tomorrow?

God I love road circuits, soooooo much more exciting to watch than bespoke tracks like Bahrain last week. Melbourne is one of the best. Turns 11 & 12, braking from 186mph to 140mph in a 100m or so then into a pair of 4g flicks then accelerating back up to 186 - 190mph? Yes please!!

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Here's the grid, definitely RedBull's year. Hope Weber can pull it off at home!

Tomorrow's grid
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Sweet, just logged onto Directv.com and set it to record
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Originally Posted by mithrilG60:
God I love road circuits, soooooo much more exciting to watch than bespoke tracks like Bahrain last week. Melbourne is one of the best. Turns 11 & 12, braking from 186mph to 140mph in a 100m or so then into a pair of 4g flicks then accelerating back up to 186 - 190mph? Yes please!! :-)

Here's the grid, definitely RedBull's year. Hope Weber can pull it off at home!

Tomorrow's grid

Hopefully no mechanical problems for RedBull this week. It would be cool to see Weber put on a clinic tomorrow.
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Indeed. I have the PVR set to record but I'm flying out to visit in-laws first thing tomorrow morning. Somehow I think I'll end up getting impatient and grabbing it off usenet before I fly home Monday night :-)
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Can't get to sleep....looks like I will be watching this race live.
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Wow, AMAZING race with some very very hungry gravel traps!!!!! F1 was definitely back to what is always should be today in Melbourne, let's hope the rest of the season is more like this one and less like Bahrain.
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