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OSV 08:58 PM 03-08-2010
I know this question is stupid, but I'm curious and clueless..
So can a cigar manufacture from lets say Dom Rep import cuban tobacco to put into their cigar's seeing as their are no restrictions.. or is the thought of transporting bales of tobacco a stupid ass idea lol idk dont kill me .. was just wondering
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akumushi 09:07 PM 03-08-2010
Even assuming someone could get the Cuban leaf (Habanos does not export raw tobacco for others to use) the primary market for Non-Cuban cigars is the US, so it would be self-defeating for say, a Dominican cigar factory to blend with Cuban leaf and thereby lose the ability to sell in its biggest market. So no, until the Embargo is lifted, you will only find Cuban puros as a seperate entity with everyone else blending or making puros as they wish. If the embargo is lifted, you may slowly see blends but it will be at Cuba's pace and discretion as to how they will mete out their most precious resource.
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OSV 09:19 PM 03-08-2010
thx for the explanation.. would be awesome tho, can you imagine the blends!! Mexican filler Nic binder Cuban wrapper hahaha one day...
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icehog3 09:40 PM 03-08-2010
Originally Posted by OSV:
thx for the explanation.. would be awesome tho, can you imagine the blends!! Mexican filler Nic binder Cuban wrapper hahaha one day...
I'm a Puros man. :-)
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Neuromancer 11:22 PM 03-08-2010
Originally Posted by OSV:
thx for the explanation.. would be awesome tho, can you imagine the blends!! Mexican filler Nic binder Cuban wrapper hahaha one day...
Cuban tobacco would get lost blended with anything else...part of the allure of a CC puro is the taste...there's a definite difference between the taste of CC's vs. any and all NC's...sort of a twang that NC's don't have...it's hard to describe...
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AlohaStyle 12:33 AM 03-09-2010
The only answer you need to that question is that Cuba would not allow anyone else using their tobacco.
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Ferrari5180 06:19 AM 03-09-2010
I am not a big fan of Cuban tobacco, but they do have some good cigars. You will not see any Cubans in USA until the embargo is lifted. Hopefully it is done soon. However, lifting this embargo could make the already expensive price of a CC skyrocket even more.
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jerseystepup 07:06 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by OSV:
I know this question is stupid, but I'm curious and clueless..
So can a cigar manufacture from lets say Dom Rep import cuban tobacco to put into their cigar's seeing as their are no restrictions.. or is the thought of transporting bales of tobacco a stupid ass idea lol idk dont kill me .. was just wondering
The issue is.. its not only illegal to import things from cuba to the US... but also ANYTHING with cuban origin... Meaning just cause it came in from DR doesnt make it ok, nothing that was originally produced in cuba can legally be possesed here.
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NCRadioMan 09:18 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by Ferrari5180:
I am not a big fan of Cuban tobacco, but they do have some good cigars. You will not see any Cubans in USA until the embargo is lifted. Hopefully it is done soon. However, lifting this embargo could make the already expensive price of a CC skyrocket even more.
Expensive? That is a, widely held, misconception my friend. On the whole, Cuban cigars are much less expensive than nc's. Much less.
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poker 09:22 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by Ferrari5180:
I am not a big fan of Cuban tobacco, but they do have some good cigars. You will not see any Cubans in USA until the embargo is lifted. Hopefully it is done soon. However, lifting this embargo could make the already expensive price of a CC skyrocket even more.
Thats not actually a very true statement. :-)
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replicant_argent 09:32 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by poker:
Thats not actually a very true statement. :-)
I think we need to have a chat with Altadis, Kelly. :-)
I believe the card.
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Parshooter 09:40 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by NCRadioMan:
Expensive? That is a, widely held, misconception my friend. On the whole, Cuban cigars are much less expensive than nc's. Much less.
He's from Canada. They ARE expensive there.
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nater 09:42 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by NCRadioMan:
Expensive? That is a, widely held, misconception my friend. On the whole, Cuban cigars are much less expensive than nc's. Much less.
Agreed :-)
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NCRadioMan 09:45 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by Parshooter:
He's from Canada. They ARE expensive there.
True but you don't have to buy in Canada. :-)
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gnbikes 10:40 AM 03-09-2010
In speaking with several industry insiders, the Cuban blenders are all ready experimenting with "imported" tobaccos. I did not believe it when I heard this the first time, but having it confirmed by people that "used to be" key people in the Cuban cigar industry, I now believe it. So don't be suprised when you see Cuban cigars that are not puros.
Garry
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Ferrari5180 10:58 AM 03-09-2010
They are expensive here in Canada. Despite the fact that we do not have an embargo, and that we can easily access CC's, it does not make them inexpensive. CC's and NC's are heavily taxed here in Montreal. A typical CAO Brazilia could go for 18$ at a local B&M. Also, we have no choice but to buy the CC's from here. We cannot purchase them from Cubas and ship them here. We will be heavily taxed again. However, we may bring 1 box (and only 1) per person when visiting cuba. We can declare only 1 box and bring in a few more, but then again, I am sticking to the legalities of this matter.
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shilala 11:06 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by gnbikes:
In speaking with several industry insiders, the Cuban blenders are all ready experimenting with "imported" tobaccos. I did not believe it when I heard this the first time, but having it confirmed by people that "used to be" key people in the Cuban cigar industry, I now believe it. So don't be suprised when you see Cuban cigars that are not puros.
Garry
They would love to get their hands on Connecticut wrapper. It's tough to grow tobacco in Cuba that isn't chewed full of bug holes.
It certainly wouldn't be but a two minute consideration for them, I'm sure.
Iirc, pre-embargo cc's were nearly all, if not all, made with Connecticut wrappers.
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akumushi 11:09 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by Ferrari5180:
They are expensive here in Canada. Despite the fact that we do not have an embargo, and that we can easily access CC's, it does not make them inexpensive. CC's and NC's are heavily taxed here in Montreal. A typical CAO Brazilia could go for 18$ at a local B&M. Also, we have no choice but to buy the CC's from here. We cannot purchase them from Cubas and ship them here. We will be heavily taxed again. However, we may bring 1 box (and only 1) per person when visiting cuba. We can declare only 1 box and bring in a few more, but then again, I am sticking to the legalities of this matter.
If you're paying $18 for a CAO Brazilia in Canada, it would be more appropriate to simply state that cigars are expensive there, CC or NC. I've spent less than that on a fiver of Brazilia before SCHIP was passed.
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fuente~fuente 11:14 AM 03-09-2010
Originally Posted by shilala:
They would love to get their hands on Connecticut wrapper. It's tough to grow tobacco in Cuba that isn't chewed full of bug holes.
It certainly wouldn't be but a two minute consideration for them, I'm sure.
Iirc, pre-embargo cc's were nearly all, if not all, made with Connecticut wrappers.
I myself am waiting for Cameroon wrapped.:-)
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akumushi 11:27 AM 03-09-2010
I would like to see a blend that combined the rich mouthfeel and taste of Nicaraguan tobacco with the wider aromatic horizons of Cuban leaf, say a Nic Corojo wrapper, Cuban Binder and filler with a bit of Nic Ligero in the filler for some kick. Now that would be a hell of a cigar.
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