weak_link 11:07 AM 01-06-2010
How big of a deal is the burn line to you? I've read on some review sites and other forums where guys get
really bent out of shape if their cigar doesn't have an even burn line. I read one review of a Tat Red Tubo where the guy enjoyed the flavor but the burn line was bad so he really slammed the cigar.
I personally don't mind touching up a cigar if the flavor is great. In fact, I'd happily touch up a cigar a couple times if the flavor was what I enjoy in a smoke.
How about you? Do you care?
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In alot of cases, I find touching up a cigar BRINGS OUT great flavors.
DO I like a ragged burn, no I do not. Is it a terrible thing.....ehhh.
But certainly if you ever do a hot relight on a cigar that goes out very
recently, you remove ALL the gray ash and relight, it's like a whole new cigar
bursting with flavors for a good 3-5 puffs.
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akumushi 11:12 AM 01-06-2010
Originally Posted by weak_link:
How big of a deal is the burn line to you? I've read on some review sites and other forums where guys get really bent out of shape if their cigar doesn't have an even burn line. I read one review of a Tat Red Tubo where the guy enjoyed the flavor but the burn line was bad so he really slammed the cigar.
I personally don't mind touching up a cigar if the flavor is great. In fact, I'd happily touch up a cigar a couple times if the flavor was what I enjoy in a smoke.
How about you? Do you care?
I've found generally that a wonky burn line is usually a humidity/storage problem rather than a construction problem, so I have a hard time knocking a cigar for an issue I probably created in the first place. A little waviness and an occassional touch up doesn't bother me as long as the flavor is on. Only if the burn is really out of control because of obvious fabrication flaws and it's affecting my enjoyment such that l I need to pitch the cigar will I say it had a 'bad burn.'
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Namerifrats 11:13 AM 01-06-2010
I just think a nice even burn looks better. Doesn't have to be perfect, but not a 1/4 inch difference from one side compared to the other. I don't mind touching up either. I think a good bit of the enjoyment from a cigar come from the visuals. Cigars are graded based of several things, looks included. I think looks play a role in how a cigar is enjoyed as well, the ash (color, structure, shape after breaking off), the burn, etc. Speaking of ash, maybe I'm just weird but I like a light gray/white ash that is slightly rounded after is falling off. Hate those spears points...lol Maybe I'm just weird.
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stearns 11:13 AM 01-06-2010
if it burns funny, i fix it, its all better then i have no problem with them, gotta remember that its a hand made product and wont be perfect every time
that being said, if it runs, i fix it, then the next puff it begins running again and i have to continually fix the same burn issue every couple minutes, it becomes a problem that deters from my enjoyment of the cigar
stearns
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icehog3 11:14 AM 01-06-2010
I'd prefer a straight burn line if I had a choce, but I won't let a crooked one lessen a good cigar.
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Depends on the cigar. Some sticks seem to be prone to burn problems and I've come to dealing with them (Camacho Diploma and Padilla Obsidian come to mind). Other cigars will drive me crazy if the burn line is out of control. In most cases I just touch them up and continue on, I don't ever recall tossing a cigar due to a poor burn line.
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pnoon 11:18 AM 01-06-2010
Originally Posted by akumushi:
I've found generally that a wonky burn line is usually a humidity/storage problem rather than a construction problem, so I have a hard time knocking a cigar for an issue I probably created in the first place. A little waviness and an occassional touch up doesn't bother me as long as the flavor is on. Only if the burn is really out of control because of obvious fabrication flaws and it's affecting my enjoyment such that l I need to pitch the cigar will I say it had a 'bad burn.'
Spot on, IMO.
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jjirons69 11:28 AM 01-06-2010
As Tom said, a sweet burn line is very nice, but a catch up here and there isn't so bad. As long as it doesn't go nuts and cause me more problems than my enjoyment and I can only remember one or two of those. I think plugged smokes aggravate
way more than the burn patterns.
BTW, I've tried the old left-handed cigarette trick with using spit and my finger to "out" the run, but with a cigar, there's a lot more girth and it doesn't work as well. Sometime I use the spit-and-stop procedure with a little lighter action on the opposite side. It all depends on the smoke.
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CasaDooley 11:32 AM 01-06-2010
There are
soooo many things that can affect the way a cigar burns that it just doesn't really bother me if it starts to go south, so to speak. Inside/outside temps and humidity levels, wind blowing, type of wrapper, how I cut or punched it, etc. I just touch it up and continue to enjoy my smoke. Life's to short to get upset over whether my cigar is burning perfect or not.
:-)
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weak_link 11:38 AM 01-06-2010
How far will you let a cigar 'run' until you correct it? I usually try and power through and let it correct itself. Once it gets to about 1/2 an inch I figure it's affecting the smoke volume and time to to touch it up.
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Blindjimme 11:39 AM 01-06-2010
Pretty much been said. If I"m enjoying the smoke and the flavors, it's not an issue.
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bobarian 11:39 AM 01-06-2010
It irritates me, but does not affect my enjoyment of the cigar. I dont mind a touch up or two.
:-)
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weak_link 11:43 AM 01-06-2010
It's interesting to me that on some sites the burn line is very important. Here at the Asylum no one seem to care that much.
:-)
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Skywalker 11:46 AM 01-06-2010
Blindjimme 11:51 AM 01-06-2010
I do not factor burn into my opinion on a cigar unless it needs constant correction. That gets annoying. To me, burn is just a sign that the cigar is rolled and stored well, but we're still talking about a handmade product. Nothing is going to be perfect 100% of the time. In fact, I had an Opus 2 weeks ago that kept burning unevenly. It didn't bother me though because the cigar corrected itself and never got too ugly.
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Lucky_Hippo 01:43 PM 01-06-2010
I correct it and go on, however, I usually don't make the correction until it affects the flavor profile. I couldn't care less how it looks, it's all about the taste for me.
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BryanB 04:46 PM 01-06-2010
Burn does not phase me as long as it taste good. I try to worry w/ the less important issues. It's all about taste.
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Salvelinus 06:12 PM 01-06-2010
Not a problem if it has to be done a couple of times. I do feel a little crosseyed after smoking because I peek at it every puff.
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