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RIsmoker 09:51 AM 10-30-2009
I got tobacco beetles in my Humidor!! I immediately put the whole humidor in the freezer for two days, then placed it in the fridge yesterday, should I have kept it in the freezer longer?
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Blueface 09:56 AM 10-30-2009
Originally Posted by RIsmoker:
I got tobacco beetles in my Humidor!! I immediately put the whole humidor in the freezer for two days, then placed it in the fridge yesterday, should I have kept it in the freezer longer?
Don't freeze your humidor.
Freeze the cigars.
Wipe down your humidor and vacuum it well to make sure any eggs/larvae is gone.
Freezing your humidor may damage the wood.
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doctorcue 09:56 AM 10-30-2009
Hmmm... you should be wrapping up your cigars in ziploc bags so they don't dry out. The `fridge will do that. I would recommend putting them in bags asap.
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Riff Raff 09:57 AM 10-30-2009
I agree with everything stated by my fellow BOTL's above. 48 hours at -10 C or colder should do the trick. That sucks that you got infested! I was gifted some CC's that had one beetle hole in it and I immediately froze them. It is a good practice to freeze all of your smokes! There is a really good thread to read if you haven't already. It is:

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7919
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MrOneEyedBoh 10:33 AM 10-30-2009
So you jsut put them in the freeezer for 48 hours and that makes em pretty much beetle free?

edit: I see why people would do it now, those things tear up some cigars.
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Sauer Grapes 10:37 AM 10-30-2009
I'd give them 72 hours at least. Might not be necessary but if I have a confirmed beetle sighting, I wanna freeze them bastards.
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T.G 10:39 AM 10-30-2009
Originally Posted by MrOneEyedBoh:
So you jsut put them in the freeezer for 48 hours and that makes em pretty much beetle free?
If your freezer is cold enough, theoretically, yes.

Best to go longer or colder, or both to give yourself a margin of safety. Even then, it's not an absolute, just very highly likely.
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Blueface 10:43 AM 10-30-2009
Guys,
Great sticky on this subject.
Click Here
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roughrider 01:00 PM 10-30-2009
Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?
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T.G 01:10 PM 10-30-2009
Originally Posted by roughrider:
Why don't cigar manufacturers do the freeze procedure at the factories on all their cigars?
Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.
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SmokinApe 01:15 PM 10-30-2009
I think you need to deep freeze, not just freeze...
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Starscream 01:35 PM 10-30-2009
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Don't freeze me, dammit! I've been through enough!
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yitlin 01:39 PM 10-30-2009
Holy random Blue Beetle reference Batman!
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roughrider 02:05 AM 10-31-2009
Originally Posted by T.G:
Most (but not all) do.

Problem is, even if the manufacturer freezes everything before shipping (and lets assume it's an infallible process, which it's not, but lets just run with that for the moment), that only ensures that the cigars are beetle, larvae and egg free up until that point. All they have to do is be exposed to one mating pair of beetles at any point thereafter in their travels from the factory to the distributor to the vendor to the customer for them to be potentially re-infested.

Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.


Makes sense.
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sodomanaz 04:44 AM 10-31-2009
Originally Posted by T.G:
Some vendors (JR cigars comes immediately to mind) blast freeze all incoming shipments too. But again, once it leaves their warehouse humidor, anything can happen.
I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable. :-)
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The EVP 08:11 AM 10-31-2009
1) Put cigars in zip lock bag.
2) Put bag of cigars in another zip lock bag.
3) Place in Freezer for 3 days
4) Move to fridge for 1 day to start bringing to temp slowly
5) Leave at room temp for 1 day.
6) Put back in humidor after cleaning and vacuuming it out.
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T.G 10:12 AM 10-31-2009
Originally Posted by sodomanaz:
I'll keep repeating this until the heavens: JR has not once, but twice passed on moldy cigars to me. Beetles I can live with. Sending me cigars with patches of mold is not forgivable. :-)
Accidentally shipping mold seems happens to all vendors at one time or another. *shrug* Even some of the CC vendors who inspect boxes prior to shipment seem to occasionally screw up too (abet rarely).

I suspect that JR keeps their shipping warehouse at greater than 70RH. Everything I've ever bought from them has come in wet despite the fact it takes a week to get to CA. It's gotten to the point that whenever I get a box of cigars from them now, I just leave them out on the counter for a week or so to dry.
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Titan410 10:15 AM 10-31-2009
If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?
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stevieray 10:19 AM 10-31-2009
Originally Posted by Titan410:
If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?
yes
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T.G 10:21 AM 10-31-2009
Originally Posted by Titan410:
If you get cigars with beetles in them but they're in cello and you leave them like that in your humi is it possible for them to get out and into your other sticks?
Absolutely. Cello won't even slow the little bastards down - they just munch right through it.
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