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kaelaria 03:51 AM 07-10-2009
OK this pisses me off in multiple ways - as a professional producing products, as a business owner selling products, and as a cigar reviewer. The guy that runs the weekly cigar site, stole all the iPhone cigar apps (using hacked software) to do a 'review' - and actually brags about it in the video!

Low class to say the least.
CueTheMusic 08:28 AM 07-10-2009
That's low class. :-)
mikeyj23 08:29 AM 07-10-2009
Let KenS know - he's the creator of Mobile Stogie.

All other issues aside, it's a pretty sh*tty "review."
kydsid 09:01 AM 07-10-2009
Lets bomb him with Gorilla Fingers.
Emjaysmash 09:34 AM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by kydsid:
Lets bomb him with Gorilla Fingers.
...dipped in poop!
kydsid 09:57 AM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by Emjaysmash:
...dipped in poop!
But then we would be legally required to declare them as hazardous materials. :-)
Emjaysmash 10:10 AM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by kydsid:
But then we would be legally required to declare them as hazardous materials. :-)
I thoguht they already were? GF's should come with a bio-hazard bag to dump the rest of the stick/ashes in when you finally throw-up from the stentch!


...sorry, didn't mean to thread-jack.
skibumdc 10:31 AM 07-10-2009
At least he says it's an amazing cigar app....that should help sales.
But yeah, that's a douche move
KenS 04:42 PM 07-10-2009
Here is the comment that I posted to his website:

Originally Posted by :
What a shame to hear you do a review of iPhone apps, only to have you finish up with essentially “I stole these apps”. Doesn’t say much about the integrity of this site in my opinion. I happen to be the author of Mobile Stogie, and have spent literally hundreds of hours developing it. At $3.99 I would have thought it was fair to expect somebody hosting a website about stogies to actually pay the $3.99. Hell, for that matter, I likely would have given you a free copy for doing the review. I am continuing to work on new features, and another version will be coming out shortly. I hope you continue to like the app, but I also hope you don’t continue to steal from me.

By the way, I was referred to your site by a number of people on a popular cigar forum, who also think it’s a bad business practice for you. For me it’s only $3.99, so no big deal, but really … what a shame.

Thanks.

The Poet 04:55 PM 07-10-2009
Dude must have a law degree, and not business admin.
KenS 05:01 PM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by The Poet:
Dude must have a law degree, and not business admin.
I'm so tempted to send the same note to his advertisers, but no sense in kicking up a storm over something that is just a hobby for me :-)

This too shall pass
Flat4boxer 05:28 PM 07-10-2009
Foul on many levels. Shame.
kydsid 05:31 PM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by KenS:
Here is the comment that I posted to his website:
If you commented on the story itself he already removed your comment.
KenS 05:48 PM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by kydsid:
If you commented on the story itself he already removed your comment.
No, actually he has now replied to my comment. Maybe still a bit shady (try before you buy applies to shareware, not things that aren't sold that way), but at least he was straight-up about responding. I actually thought he'd just delete my comment.

Again, I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I do appreciate my fellow inmates jumping to my defense :-)
Lee 05:55 PM 07-10-2009
He has a link on his site to Cigar Asylum. I wonder if he is a member here.
kaelaria 07:19 PM 07-10-2009
His reply:

John Brooke
Ken,
Thanks for the comment. I’m using Installous as a try before you buy type of thing and have every intention of buying the apps that I see myself using regularly. I’m really enjoying your app and will certainly buy it as soon as I fully evaluate it. If you would like, to make up for my mention of stealing the app, shoot me an email with some banner code in it and I will gladly post an ad on my site. Again, I apologize for talking about stealing apps, and I can assure you that I certainly wouldn’t have talked about it if I thought it would portray me negatively.


Notice he only says he wouldn't have TALKED ABOUT stealing them - but his feelings about it are still the same. He meant to do it and still doesn't apologize. Scum.

What's next - going to steal some cigars from your local shop and 'evaluate them' before you buy the ones you end up liking? Thief!
NCRadioMan 07:25 PM 07-10-2009
Originally Posted by kaelaria:
Notice he only says he wouldn't have TALKED ABOUT stealing them - but his feelings about it are still the same. He meant to do it and still doesn't apologize. Scum.

What's next - going to steal some cigars from your local shop and 'evaluate them' before you buy the ones you end up liking? Thief!
:-) Gotta agree.

Nice try though. :-)
SmokinApe 08:00 PM 07-10-2009
Someone get the tar and feathers!!!

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kelmac07 08:02 PM 07-10-2009
This is definetly not cool.
Azpostal 08:04 PM 07-10-2009
Man that sucks! Ken you put out a great app and people should just buy the thing it cost less than almost any cigar out there.
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