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GreekGodX 07:23 PM 05-13-2009
The purpose of this message is to let everyone on CA know when using pa yp al or other electronic payments not to put any mention of cigars or tobacco products in the transaction. Due to a recent transaction selling cigars, my pa yp al account was being reviewed for the possible sale of embargoed products. I definitely did not sell any CC's on there they were legitimate NC's. I was able to withdraw my funds but they were threatening to close my account if I did not provide them with info on the origin of the cigars. Also if I did not prove to them they were not embargoed, they were going to forward the case to the OFAC for further investigation. Luckily I had the receipts and sent them some pics of the cigars and everything went fine. But I do not want others to have to go through the same thing for something that can be easily avoided.

Just note electronic payment companies prohibit the sale of any cigars or tobacco products. So if you are going to make a sale or purchase cigars make sure not to mention it anywhere during the payment process.
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WildBlueSooner 07:24 PM 05-13-2009
Good reminder! Thanks!
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ucla695 07:26 PM 05-13-2009
Good reminder for all of us!
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kelmac07 07:27 PM 05-13-2009
Great info for future reference...thanks.
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hotreds 07:30 PM 05-13-2009
What a pain! Indeed, NEVER mention anything tobacco when using poo pail!
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marge796 08:04 PM 05-13-2009
Thank you my friend!
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elderboy02 08:06 PM 05-13-2009
I never mention tobacco. You don't have to write anything in the subject line :-)
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SeanGAR 08:07 PM 05-13-2009
Yeah, I always mark "poo juice" in the poopal notifications. Let them come after me for that.
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md4958 08:16 PM 05-13-2009
Yup, I know the feeling. I got the same "review" a couple months ago.

Youre basically banned Christos. My account was never reactivated, nor will they let me close the account, change the bank or cc accounts, or addresses.

I tried being sneaky and opening another account. That was shut down after 2 days too.

I feel like an internet cripple now... always asking people to send and receive money for me. Its a real pain in the balls.
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cricky101 08:17 PM 05-13-2009
Originally Posted by SeanGAR:
Yeah, I always mark "poo juice" in the poopal notifications. Let them come after me for that.
:-)

PeiPahl inspector: "Man, that guy sure does buy a lot of poo juice ...."
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GreekGodX 08:23 PM 05-13-2009
Originally Posted by md4958:
Yup, I know the feeling. I got the same "review" a couple months ago.

Youre basically banned Christos. My account was never reactivated, nor will they let me close the account, change the bank or cc accounts, or addresses.

I tried being sneaky and opening another account. That was shut down after 2 days too.

I feel like an internet cripple now... always asking people to send and receive money for me. Its a real pain in the balls.
Well initially they told me multiple times that they would be closing the account, but now I got an email saying the account will stay open and all limitations will be removed. After logging into it, the account is still "limited". So I will wait and see..

I've already have been having issues with sending/receiving using others. Not fun at all.
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chippewastud79 08:24 PM 05-13-2009
A good reminder. I got a little scare from PP too when someone put cigars in mine, but luckily it made it through :-)
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md4958 08:27 PM 05-13-2009
The pain in the ass is that my issue was just that somebody put "(name) from cigar asylum" That was enough to shut me down. no other mention of cigars made
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GreekGodX 08:30 PM 05-13-2009
Originally Posted by md4958:
The pain in the ass is that my issue was just that somebody put "(name) from cigar asylum" That was enough to shut me down. no other mention of cigars made
That is B.S!! You could have been selling anything and just happened to meet the buyer through a cigar site. I cannot believe they would put you through the whole review process over that! Maybe google's payment service is better and we can make a mass move over to using them :-)
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md4958 08:33 PM 05-13-2009
Originally Posted by GreekGodX:
Maybe google's payment service is better and we can make a mass move over to using them :-)
just signed up yesterday :-)

Anyway, good luck with your account Christos. Hopefully youll have a better outcome than me
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WildBlueSooner 08:55 PM 05-13-2009
Originally Posted by md4958:
just signed up yesterday :-)

Anyway, good luck with your account Christos. Hopefully youll have a better outcome than me
Never knew google had a pay service... I will sign up soon and try it out
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Thrak 06:06 AM 05-14-2009
You should've told them to suck it, and then close the account. You shouldnt have had to prove anything.
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md4958 06:11 AM 05-14-2009
Originally Posted by Thrak:
You should've told them to suck it, and then close the account. You shouldnt have had to prove anything.
you cant close the account, because once they "limit" it, you cant do chit.
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GreekGodX 07:05 AM 05-14-2009
Yea I would have loved to just have closed it.. I don't get why they won't let you close it. The account is useless now anyway..
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md4958 07:17 AM 05-14-2009
Originally Posted by GreekGodX:
Yea I would have loved to just have closed it.. I don't get why they won't let you close it. The account is useless now anyway..
They wont let you close it because: you cannot have two accounts with the same banking or credit card information. If they let you close the account, you can just open a new one with the old account #s.

Bastards:-)

hey PP :-):
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