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Starz26 08:59 PM 01-06-2011
Do not think this has been discussed here yet so.....

http://tobaccogrove.com/index.cfm/pa...128#family_128

All info in the link...
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688sonarmen 09:07 PM 01-06-2011
Thanks for the info:-)
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big a 09:09 PM 01-06-2011
Thanks for the heads up. I will try to order some after work if they still have them.
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Superbad 09:32 PM 01-06-2011
These are being made along side the production sticks to be released at some point in the future. Only difference is the early release and a covered foot.
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Brutus2600 10:17 PM 01-06-2011
?!?

I love the black label...and I love lanceros...EXCELLENT NEWS.

Thanks :-)
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Bill86 10:24 PM 01-06-2011
I do like the black labels but......For their size they are quite pricey @ $8.52 a piece for a 6x38 stick? No deals on the box prices either, even if you buy 35 sticks!
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Brutus2600 10:29 PM 01-06-2011
The SODO was what...$11 a stick? Same size.

I'll pay $8.50 for a good lancero.

But yeah, Tatuaje's limited releases are never cheap :-)

Good to know that a regular release is on it's way!
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elderboy02 10:31 PM 01-06-2011
I am glad these will be regular production.
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Ranger_B 10:35 PM 01-06-2011
Well I will try but I never have luck with his special release. Good to know I have a shot a production once it comes out. Never dealt with this company so I just signed up for an account so hopefully I just have to log in tomorrow and get lucky.
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smokinpeace 06:19 AM 01-07-2011
Must..... Not....... Buy....... Must...... wait..... for..... regular release. Not sure if that is gonna happen.
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McSmokey 08:09 AM 01-07-2011
Well I'm gonna have to go to lunch a few minutes early to be ready. Credit Card I am sorry in advance for what I am about to do. Oh, and please don't tell my wife on me. :-)
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wayner123 08:12 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by Superbad:
These are being made along side the production sticks to be released at some point in the future. Only difference is the early release and a covered foot.
Where did you learn this information?
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T.G 08:27 AM 01-07-2011
I don't have any idea on the future production scale, if any, of these cigars, but I can tell you why there are only 200 boxes right now...

...That's how many boxes Pepin's box shop made by accident.

When we were down in Nicaragua at the beginning of November on the Drew Estates Cigar Safari, Pete was down at the My Father factory and spending quite a bit of time hanging out with us, at one point he comes over with a big smile on his face and says something like "As of a few minutes ago, it now looks like I'm releasing a Tat Black petite lancero. <big grin> Pepin's box shop made a mistake and made 200 boxes*, and since I hate waste, and I already have the cigars, I'm going to release them."

*: the wrong size or by accident - I forget exactly which Pete said. He didn't want Pepin to have to absorb the cost of the boxes.
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elderboy02 08:31 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Where did you learn this information?
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.
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Brooks W 08:44 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.
Correct.
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wayner123 10:11 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.
I find this very interesting given that a couple years ago when the Black CG's came out they were supposed to be a limited release that was not going to be regular production. Not due to the size, but due to the leaf/crop available. It seems that the black series has done so well he "found" more black material.
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T.G 10:28 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
I find this very interesting given that a couple years ago when the Black CG's came out they were supposed to be a limited release that was not going to be regular production. Not due to the size, but due to the leaf/crop available. It seems that the black series has done so well he "found" more black material.
I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.
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wayner123 10:41 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by T.G:
I don't recall Pete ever claiming that these or the previous Tat Blacks were from the same crop. Just that the blend is the same.

If Pepin has grown more leaf that is suitable for the cigars, and Pete wants to make them, then what's the big deal? It's just a recurring limited release that changes vitolas over the years when it comes out. Not the first time something like this has been done.
I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.
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T.G 11:09 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
I didn't explain that correctly. I will have to find the discussion, but he claimed that Blacks were going to be his personal stash, then said that they were a one time thing, and now they are going to regular production? I didn't mean to say the same exact crop, but that the leaves used are supposed to be the same type.

I don't find it to be a problem, but that was part of the hype of the cigars, that they were going to be VERY exclusive.
Understood. I seem to vaguely recall reading some of those statements too.

I think some clarification from Pete as to the production numbers and what he meant by "regular" might be in order. He might have just meant that this a split release due to the box fubar that brought about it's release in the first place Or maybe it will be a low volume continuous production. I don't know, but I can see it possibly meaning either.

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EDIT: I'm re-reading Pete's posts about the cigar production on another board, and it really does sound more like a split (early) release and then a limited release and he might have been referring to how factory workers are dedicated to a project. But I'll ask just to clarify.
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rizzle 11:17 AM 01-07-2011
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Pete Johnson said it yesterday on BOTL

He also said the initial release won't be wet packed because they will be fresh. The regular production ones will be wet packed.
Originally Posted by Brooks W:
Correct.
Pardon my complete ignorance, but what is "wet packed" and then, I guess, tha alternative "dry packed". Thanks.
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