So, does anybody know if Ashton has any "seconds" like other manufacturers do? I would specifically be looking for a VSG second.

I know chances of that happening are 1 in a million so, does anybody have any other alternative to the VSG ( smooth chocolaty, slightly spicy stick ) ?
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I have never ever heard of this
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I'm pretty sure any top shelf cigar is not going to have seconds.
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I'd be in on that if you ever find one! :-)
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The Ashton VSG is made by Fuente and fuente has a distinct policy of NOT having any seconds. Anything that is mismade or veiney is either destroyed or smoked by the employees.
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Unless you consider the 99 Rounds VSGs to be "seconds" since they were a frak up by Fuente in overfilling and thus left round.
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LOL, thanks guys. I didnt think so but I thought I would give it a shot.

So any other cigars that are similar?
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To the VSG? Not really. Maybe another sun grown? Rocky Partel has a line I believe but I've never tried it.
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I like Rockys Sun Growns. They dont compare though. :-)
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I have never had anything like the VSG. This is my favorite stick, so I too have been looking for something comparative.
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There is nothing too similar that I have tried...but Rockys Sungrown are very good sticks and worth trying!
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A unique cigar, I haven't had anything close either.
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OK, so where are the applications?
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:-):-)
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Doesn't Fuente have Opus and Anejo seconds? :-)
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No they don't have seconds for either of them... Lemme find the link on Vitolas.net

Edit: Fuente also is ripped off frequently by less than reputable distributors who claim to have Arturo Fuente factory seconds. “There absolutely are no Fuente seconds,” Suarez said. “ If they don’t measure up to Arturo Fuente standards, they are destroyed at the factory or given to employees to smoke.” http://vitolas.net/displayimage.php?...ch&cat=0&pos=1
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Not a VSG but have you smoked any of the Fuente Sungrown line? The best vitola IMHO is the Cuban Beli. Again, not a VSG but at $5-$6 a stick they are pretty great.:-)
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Ok so after all this VSG talk is it really worth the California price to try one?
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They are delicious . . .

I'll second the other Sun Grown vitolas from Fuente. I love the CF Sungrown and the Double CF Sungrown. Was really surprised when I found them at JR earlier this year. Great stick, great price. The CF SG is a super morning stick.
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Ok I'm going to get a few sticks on Friday thanks.
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