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Emjaysmash 11:24 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by icehog3:
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LMAO :-):-)
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skullnrose 11:41 PM 04-15-2009
I have smoked a few that were passable but not something I'd buy again. What I really dislike about them Is their marketing and how they boast about how great they are. It's just way over the top and that's enough to keep me from buying them. Same thing goes for me with CAO I have had a few I liked but none I'd buy a box of But hey if you like them by all means smoke them and enjoy them.
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Emjaysmash 11:44 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by skullnrose:
I have smoked a few that were passable but not something I'd buy again. What I really dislike about them Is their marketing and how they boast about how great they are. It's just way over the top and that's enough to keep me from buying them. Same thing goes for me with CAO I have had a few I liked but none I'd buy a box of But hey if you like them by all means smoke them and enjoy them.
:-)

With my budget, I cant justify the cost for the experience I get out of them.
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Darrell 11:54 PM 04-15-2009
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I'm bored. :-)
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icehog3 11:55 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by Darrell:
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I'm bored. :-)
My last Gurkha. Ever. :-)
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Don Fernando 11:57 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by Legend:
Ok
. I've seen it here from a few. A lot of Gurkha hate. Personally I don't get it. I do, however, want to know why.
The answer is pretty simple. Gurkha has a lot of lines, and only one or two are to my likings, the rest are awefull, that's why I hate Gurkha.
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Legend 01:36 AM 04-16-2009
The haters here have only specifically mentioned one cigar. The rest very vague which doesn't give me a why beyond personal preference. Now first of all I am not trying to stir up the pot. And second. I have many cigars that I do not personally prefer. But I still can appreciate the good construction and quality tobacco. I don't just hate on them.

I guess to be more specific. Why the venom? Why hated so much more than "eh not my type"
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Jimbo14 05:36 AM 04-16-2009
Bobby! Where are you mate??????
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longknocker 05:51 AM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by Legend:
Ok
. I've seen it here from a few. A lot of Gurkha hate. Personally I don't get it. I do, however, want to know why. I won't try to convince anyone or tell them their opinion is wrong. Just want to know why you don't like the whole brand. What you tried etc.

Or conversely what you like if you're a Gurkha ho like me.

Me. I like a med to full flavor smoke. I like that many Gurkha cigars are very unique and not just another same old same old smoke. They are typically very rich in their flavors and usually go very well through the nose (snork). I've tried basically all sizes of.

Grand reserve natural and maduro

Grand age

Master select natural and maduro

Estate selection vintage shaggy

Doble maduro

Centurian XX

Royal brigade

Royal salute

Anniversary natural and maduro

Triple ligureo

Black dragon and dragonfire

Blue steel

Probably more I can't think of
I've tried 3-4 of the different blends and just didn't get that much out of them, especially for the high price.
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Starchild 06:10 AM 04-16-2009
When I first started getting into cigars, before I found places like this, I bought into the catalog hype pumping up Gurkha as the end all-be all of cigars. I had a couple that I enjoyed, but the more I got into the hobby, and the more my taste developed, I became unimpressed with the Gurkhas I tried. There are much better smokes out there for my money. I don't want to pay for all that advertising.

I'm sure there are smokes in the endless stream of blends that I may like, but the price point doesn't make me want to go hunting.

I still want to try a Nepalese Warrior eventually though.

No hate here, just been turned off by the brand in general.
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Catfish 07:01 AM 04-16-2009
Most of em i've had I liked. I've had several. For the most part, I don't think they justify the price. I mean... $8 for a robusto? I'm sorry, the Black Dragon is not worth that much dough. The Warlord is a great smoke for $10. The G5, not worth $10.

I would smoke them again and will purchase more when my local B&M has another event but I won't pay MSRP for 'em.
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s15driftking 07:07 AM 04-16-2009
I think it goes without saying, i think it's a swell brand.

Originally Posted by Darrell:
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I'm bored. :-)
it looks like he likes it!
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landhoney 07:24 AM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by Legend:
I guess to be more specific. Why the venom? Why hated so much more than "eh not my type"
I think it's a combination of two factors:

1. Many feel the cigars taste bad (myself included - burnt earth/dirt, not my cup of tea)
2. The descriptions of them being "the Rolls Royce of cigars" , the huge amount of cigar lines, the "most expensive cigar in the world", copying the Cuban RE bands, the CI descriptions, the high prices....but then there are always some to be found at discounted prices, etc. etc. etc.

And I don't think it's hatred, just 'easy/fun to make fun of". It's like if the AMC Pacer marketed itself as the "ultimate driving machine" and came in 500 different variations, but all similarly not so great.

:-)
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Da Klugs 07:32 AM 04-16-2009
The best advice on dealing with the devil is.....

don't.

Smoke what you like. Respect others right to do the same.

Re: Gurkha's? Exploration of cigars likes and dislikes is an evolutionary experience. You don't realize what you don't know until you learn more. Many, upon learning more, realize things.
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DPD6030 07:38 AM 04-16-2009
My :-) I can spend less on things that I know I like and don't make me want to :-) Oh btw, thanks Don for the sampler that included a Gurkha :-)
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Col. Kurtz 07:39 AM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by Starchild:
When I first started getting into cigars, before I found places like this, I bought into the catalog hype pumping up Gurkha as the end all-be all of cigars. I had a couple that I enjoyed, but the more I got into the hobby, and the more my taste developed, I became unimpressed with the Gurkhas I tried. There are much better smokes out there for my money. I don't want to pay for all that advertising.
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No hate here, just been turned off by the brand in general.
My sentiments exactly. I loved the Doble Mauro and RP Connie, think I got them in a CI sampler. They were great beginner cigars for me. My tastes have changed from these smokes. For the price, I go for a Pepin, Padron or Fuente that I know will deliver for me. Guess I can't get past those first few to try the rest of the line.

Early on, I smoked some RP vintage. I thought were too harsh for no reason. I would probably enjoy one now, so I should go back and try it. I just know there are cigars that will deliver for me (for the same price or less), and that's what I usually pick up.

For the record, I'm also a CasaMagna "hater". Wasted money on these three times with poor results. :-)
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icehog3 07:47 AM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by Legend:
The haters here have only specifically mentioned one cigar. The rest very vague which doesn't give me a why beyond personal preference. Now first of all I am not trying to stir up the pot. And second. I have many cigars that I do not personally prefer. But I still can appreciate the good construction and quality tobacco. I don't just hate on them.

I guess to be more specific. Why the venom? Why hated so much more than "eh not my type"
With respect for Klugs' manta of "smoke what you like", the OP has asked that we not be so vague...so off the top of my head....

Smoked The Beast....tasted like dirt.

Smoked a Titan....tasted like dirt.

Smoked a Genghis Khan....tasted like dirt.

Smoked a Series 1887 Churchill...tasted like dirt.

Smoked an Ancient Warrior...tasted like dirt.

Smoked a Black Dragon....tasted like dirt.

Smoked a Legend....tasted foul and sour.

Smoked a Regent...again, foul and sour.

Smoked whatever the churchill barberpole version is...tasted like air.
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dunng 07:48 AM 04-16-2009
Smoked dirt... tasted like a Gurkha.


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icehog3 07:58 AM 04-16-2009
And for the record before the question comes....I played football. So yes, I've tasted dirt. :-)
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borndead1 08:09 AM 04-16-2009
Doble Maduro -- inconsistent in flavor and construction. First one I smoked was good, the next 3 in a row tasted funny and were rolled poorly.

Nepalese Warrior -- same story. Smoked 1 that was good, and a couple more that tasted completely different from the first one and also burned horribly.

Expedition -- same story. Every cigar tasted different.

Connecticut Reserve -- smoked through a 5 pack, they were OK but I've tasted better mild CT wrap cigars that cost a buck and change.

Centurian -- I actually smoked 3 or 4 of these and liked them. But not enough to get any more.


Do you see a pattern?

Poor consistency in blending
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Poor consistency in construction
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Ridiculous amounts of BS and hype
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I hate Gurkha. :-)
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