neoflex 02:52 PM 04-09-2012
Looking to see if I am a crazy @sshole and totally off base here so please feel free to give me your honest feedback.
I have a neighbor across the street who in my opinion feels the world should revolve around him and because of that his kids are learning to have the same entitled mentality. Been dealing with this issue for some time and it finally came to a head today.
My across the street neighbor who is actually a house and a half away on the other side of the streets kids are constantly either playing football or soccer in the street in front of my house instead of their own. Keep in mind their house is on a curve and the front yard is over twice the size of mine and being the neighborhood is still being built also has 6 empty lots to the other side of him. Normally I wouldn't care but his kids really have no regard for others property as they are always stepping all over our plants and shrubs, almost hitting my vehicles on a regular basis with the ball and riding their bikes across everyones front lawns and yards and regularly breaking sh*t. On numerous occasions in the past after they have either broken landscaping lights, broken something on my property or hit my vehicles with a ball and I would pull the father aside and politely asked him if he could keep his kids from playing directly in front of my house or if they do if they could be a little more respectful and mindful of my property. Every time I was the @sshole for even mentioning it and he would hold a grudge. One time he held a grudge for a good bit until my next door neighbor told him he was dead wrong for being pissed at me as his kids do the same in his yard and he has yelled at them for it and for throwing their candy and ice cream wrappers in his yard. Keep in mind this guy is super anal about his own truck to the point where he washes it a minimum of 4 times a week and that's not an exaggeration.(God forbid he mowes his damn weeds though) This would explain why you will never catch any of them playing with the ball near his own truck.
So today I happened to be in the front room where my wife and I were playing with the baby. Needless to say the one kid is literally on my driveway less than two feet from my truck waiting for his brother to pass him the ball as he saw that this was a perfect place for him to play receiver. My wife saw the fury in my eyes and told don't go out side and make a scene. So I swallowed my anger and just watched out of the corner of my eye. Needless to say the ball hits my truck and they of course abadoned the ball like they usually do and ran back to their house so when I go over there to talk to the father they can say it wasn't them but some other non existent kid in the neighborhood. Well, unfortunately for them I saw it go down. Needless to say I went out and got the ball and brought it to the father and again asked him if their going to play ball if they could either do it in front of there own house or on their lawn away from my vehicles. Needless to say this turned out to be a big loud argument which I of course was accused of picking on his kids and singling them out. I replied with when the rest of the neighbors kids do play in front of my house they are mindful and respectful to my property and if they do happen to break something they at least knock on the door to inform me. I guess the truth hurt as this is where it got really heated. The best was his kids cursing at me with zero response from the father further proving to me that he has zero respect for anyone else and probably explains why his oldest is in jail at 19 years old.
Now am I just being unreasonable here and asking too much? Never had to deal with this as any other neighbor I lived next to have taught their kids boundries and that not everyone else in the neighborhoods home was their personal playground. Hell I know if I was caught doing half the crap they do as a child my father would have severely beat my @ss as I will do with my own when she is old enough to go out and play on her own. I'm sure I am leaving a great deal out but I have already posted a book.
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Blak Smyth 03:09 PM 04-09-2012
I have a similar situation with a neighbor, but less severe. Sounds like you have a real doosher for a neighbor!
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Don Fernando 03:22 PM 04-09-2012
invite some friends and play ball near his truck, in his yard and 'accidentally' throw a ball thru his window.
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Good fences make good neighbors.... either that or concertina wire....
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:-) I just had to....
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I've had similar issues over the years with an alley behind my property that was used as a dump, auto wrecking yard, storage etc by the rental tenants behind me. I finally got the property owner on board and it is pretty much resolved.
I feel for you, but it looks like you are in a can't win situation....your a$$ owns the place....
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ade06 03:28 PM 04-09-2012
Sounds like a good fence would help fix the problem of these kids walking on your yard. Also, I would stop returning the balls to the father. If it finds its way to your property and is left, I would keep it until the kids apologized and asked for its return.
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BlkDrew 03:30 PM 04-09-2012
if it were me, i have some resources such as friends that are Police Officers. They would have no problem stopping by and talking to the father and the kids. I also would not give the ball back if it landed in my yard and I would also go as far as pursuing tress-pass charges on the kids, it is your property, if someone gets hurt on your property you can be held liable.
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Blak Smyth 03:31 PM 04-09-2012
Or get an air cannon that can fit a football in the barrell and fire one through there front door and tell them it was from some other disgruntled neighbor. You wouldn't do something so rude to a neighbor you respect so much, maybe then you invite his family over for dinner and burry them in the crawl space. Okay so maybe we draw the line right before the crawl space?
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jluck 03:44 PM 04-09-2012
Have you tried shaking you fist at them and yelling " damn whippersnappers get off me lawn"! That might work......
Really though I would maybe have the cops have a civil visit with them about property damage because face it....you can't just back hand them like you'd like to.
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neoflex 03:52 PM 04-09-2012
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
Or get an air cannon that can fit a football in the barrell and fire one through there front door and tell them it was from some other disgruntled neighbor. You wouldn't do something so rude to a neighbor you respect so much, maybe then you invite his family over for dinner and burry them in the crawl space. Okay so maybe we draw the line right before the crawl space?
:-) If only it were that easy.
:-):-) The worst part is I know other neighbors are tired of dealing with it but most would rather not say anything to avoid the conflict where I have a hard time ignoring sh*t and letting it roll of my back especially when it costs me money. Good to see I'm not the only one that this would bother. We do have a fence, fencing off the backyard but that still leaves the driveway and front yard open. Thinking about opting for a video system so when sh*t does get damaged or broken I at least have proof. I really just wish they would move but they will probably be here longer than me.
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Starscream 03:59 PM 04-09-2012
Go play baseball in the street with a friend or two and be sure to line drive one through their front window. That's an @$$hole response, but since you have asked nicely on more than one occasion...
Or you could just file a police report for damages done to your property.
My two oldest kids and one of their friends got caught running through my neighbor's yard and jumping over shrubs once. It NEVER happened again. My neighbors were nice about it, and I was nice back to them, but I wasn't so nice to my kids. They learned their lesson about respecting other people's property.
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bobarian 04:05 PM 04-09-2012
Not sure why you keep giving the ball back.
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Any balls in my yard go into a box and then to Goodwill.
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replicant_argent 04:07 PM 04-09-2012
We call them CSO's here. (Community Service Officers). While a call to the "Police" seems a bit drastic, when you do something like that here, the PoPo will send a CSO to have a chat with the offending neighbor and explain that his kids are infringing upon the peace of the neighborhood. Of course, the tact utilized by the CSO may be circumspect, and the discussion may not have positive results. (Let's hope your CSO is smarter than my own
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While the property damage is one thing, safety of the children and those utilizing the street is at risk.
And we wouldn't want the kids to be at risk, would we?
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(you may want to have the other neighbors also call in complaints so the CSO can use the phrase "We have multiple complaints from several different sources.")
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Bill86 04:10 PM 04-09-2012
Sounds like the father needs to catch a beating, and then maybe he'll learn to pass it on to his kids.
You are being far more reasonable than I would be.
If you get a hold of the soccer ball just put a knife to it. They aren't respectful of your property or you, why should you respect them or their property. After 5-6 soccer balls maybe they'll get the message.
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MurphysLaw 04:13 PM 04-09-2012
Originally Posted by bobarian:
Not sure why you keep giving the ball back. :-)
Any balls in my yard go into a box and then to Goodwill. :-)
This. The kids abandoned the ball on your property, I'd find a charity that would get that ball to some kids in need.
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replicant_argent 04:14 PM 04-09-2012
Originally Posted by Bill86:
Sounds like the father needs to catch a beating, and then maybe he'll learn to pass it on to his kids.
You are being far more reasonable than I would be.
If you get a hold of the soccer ball just put a knife to it. They aren't respectful of your property or you, why should you respect them or their property. After 5-6 soccer balls maybe they'll get the message.
I don't think having assault charges pressed against yourself would be worth a dented hood or a broken chunk o' landscape. Other, more infinitely divergent minds other than my own may have other views. Not a good time for Testosterone Silliness. The dude has to live there, and childish retaliation can spin out of control pretty quickly.
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Bill86 04:17 PM 04-09-2012
Originally Posted by replicant_argent:
I don't think having assault charges pressed against yourself would be worth a dented hood or a broken chunk o' landscape. Other, more infinitely divergent minds other than my own may have other views. Not a good time for Testosterone Silliness. The dude has to live there, and childish retaliation can spin out of control pretty quickly.
I only stated he needed a beating, I never said to knock on his door and kick his teeth in. People like that never listen to rational thought, a good ass kicking would do them some good.
Obviously the talking it out approach never worked.
Probably need to take it up with someone of the authority.
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the jiggler 04:28 PM 04-09-2012
I think your concerns are reasonable and you're response up to this point has been fair. When it comes to neighbors, I generally try to follow the Roadhouse Approach:
be nice until it's time to not be nice. Video surveillance is a good idea. Call the cops on him and let them deal with it. When you are talking to the neighbors go out of your way to make sure they know that you are just a regular joe doing the best you can to get along with everybody. More people who are sympathetic to your cause the better.
Worse comes to worse you could always catch one of the kids and brand them. If that doesn't work, brand another one. Sooner or later they'll get the point.
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mosesbotbol 04:31 PM 04-09-2012
Trespassing Warrant on the kids. They have no legality to be on your property. Whatever of theirs touches your property, I would move it into the garage and tell them that their father can pick it up.
Small claims court for damages they have committed and additional small claims courts for whatever you can think of. He'll have to take time out to go to court and that's a pain. If you are in a HOA, start making noise there.
Start being their nightmare. The father is not someone you want to hang around with, so let him feel the pain.
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replicant_argent 04:45 PM 04-09-2012
Originally Posted by T.G:
Landmines.
Too much probability of hurting an innocent puppy.
Now, on the roof, with a rifle, a bottle of Jack Daniels and a stainless steel jockstrap to hold in the titanium bursting balls? Genius. And there is the opportunity to air your grievances to the neighborhood while getting some sun.
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