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Jack1000 10:57 AM 07-01-2010
Originally Posted by kenstogie:
I certainly would be.

Because this happens to me....


_____they can't get the humidity high enough (in the winter for me)and if I put it in the basement where it's more humid it can't get it down low enough(in the summer)______


For me though if I put my coolerdors in "body bag" type garbage bags that does solve it. Of course I'd rather not deal with it.
Yeah-- I have a vinotemp, a large desktop and a avanti compressor based dorm fridge. I had to unplug the avanti, but the humidity is steady in it now that it is not running. Problem is that the cigars are over 76 sometimes--no beetles yet though.
The vinotemp is okay, but it has wild swings when my office gets hot. I'm hoping the shila beads help this one. The desktop cabinet has a cigar oasis in it that works pretty well, but those cigars get warm as well.
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CigarNut 10:48 AM 08-04-2010
Originally Posted by weak_link:
Scott can you suggest a way to keep the bags from splitting? The large bags that sit at the bottom of my vino are fine but the ones that get moved around from time to time in the desktops have some issues. Two or 3 of the small bags have split on me. I tried to melt the bags back together with a torch with varying degrees of success. Actually not much success, just a lot of fail.
If you think the packaging for your beads is getting worn and will leak, let me know and I will send you out a replacement and then you can return the worn out one (placing it in a ziplock or the like before shipping it :-)). No charge for you except the postage to return the old one.

This applies whether you purchased the beads from either me or Scott.
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kelmac07 11:01 AM 08-04-2010
Originally Posted by CigarNut:
If you think the packaging for your beads is getting worn and will leak, let me know and I will send you out a replacement and then you can return the worn out one (placing it in a ziplock or the like before shipping it :-)). No charge for you except the postage to return the old one.

This applies whether you purchased the beads from either me or Scott.
+1 for that customer service!! :-) :-)
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stewshi 12:19 PM 08-04-2010
yup as always great customer service wish all companies were this good
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Blak Smyth 08:03 AM 12-02-2011
I just purchased 3 more 8oz bags!
These are hands down the easiest form of humidification I have found!
Great product!!!
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LigaPrivadaT84 11:00 AM 12-02-2011
I've started using these since late Sept and was using Heartfelt beads for almost a decade prior.
So far been rock steady at 65% without any issues or maintenance.
:-)
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Savor the Stick 11:38 AM 12-02-2011
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
I just purchased 3 more 8oz bags!
:-) :-):-) :-):-)
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kaisersozei 07:24 AM 02-16-2012
Zombifying this thread to ask a question & get opinions:

I've had 8 oz of Shilala beads in my glasstop for a long time. After resealing the humi last year, it's maintained 62% pretty solidly year round.

Haven't had a cigar from there in about 10 days, but when I passed by this morning I took a peek at the hygrometer and it read 67dg/50%. 50%??!?! The temp is correct, so I'm not thinking it's the batteries. I'll do a recalibration this weekend, meanwhile can anyone explain that significant of a drop in humidity? If the beads need recharging, will they gradually lose their moisture or can it be that precipitous?

Thanks for your thoughts!
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grateful1 07:29 AM 02-16-2012
Aside from not knowing what the beads are....I'd say you may want to re-calibrate them.
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shilala 07:30 AM 02-16-2012
Gerard, hygros can go flaky, too. I have one in my winador that's driving me nuts. I just put batteries in it and recalibrated it and it's still off by a mile. I'm going to throw it in the calibration bag again and see what it says (I use a bunch of 65% Boveda bags in a gallon ziplock to calibrate).
Being as your situation doesn't make sense, I'm just taking a wild shot. It wouldn't hurt to replace the battery if it's been in there more than a year.
Your humi could have split a seam or something, too.
You know what you're doing, so I won't bore you to death, I just wanted to point out that hygros can get goofy cause I'm going through that right now. :-)
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kaisersozei 06:48 AM 02-26-2012
Updating my situation:

I swapped out the hygrometer from my cooler with the one in the glasstop, and it still read 50%. So I took out the bottom layer of sticks in the humidor, placed a bowl of water in with the beads, put the top tray back in, and sealed her up. Over the past 10 days, the humidity has slowly climbed by about 1% per day so she's sitting right now at 70dg/67%. I may go a tad higher before returning all the cigars to their previous positions.

Not sure what caused the drop. I resealed this last year, and it had been holding steady for some time. Could be that my stepson, who spends a lot of time in that room, or one of his friends, have been poking around in the humidor, but I won't ever know that for sure.

Anyway, the problem seems to be fixing itself, so that's the important thing.
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jluck 09:36 AM 02-26-2012
I figured I should update my humidor status since going beads.

Since I got beads shilala beads through Michael (CigarNut) Everytime I open my humidor its on 65% not even a 1% fluctuation. I can't believe how rock solid it stays. No more overpriced water and flower foam BS.:-)
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BHalbrooks 11:04 AM 02-26-2012
Very dumb question. I really don't want to pan through 6 pages for an answer either.
What do you put this on? I mean, it doesn't seem like you could put the Distilled water in it, and just leave that on bare wood. Wouldn't that cause problems?
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bobarian 11:36 AM 02-26-2012
Originally Posted by BHalbrooks:
Very dumb question. I really don't want to pan through 6 pages for an answer either.
What do you put this on? I mean, it doesn't seem like you could put the Distilled water in it, and just leave that on bare wood. Wouldn't that cause problems?
I have no idea what you are asking? Is this a reference to beads? Hydrating? :-)
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BHalbrooks 11:43 AM 02-26-2012
Yea, I went to the website, and there was a pouch that comes in different sizes and weights. I'm not sure if you just put some water in it, and then just drop it off?
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JoeCool87TC 12:31 PM 02-26-2012
Just thought I'd throw my experiences into the ring here. I'm a relative newbie, only been smoking cigars since October 2010. When I started purchasing stuff, I did my research and on the humidity-control side bought into the Shilala/HCM beads.

Since my first 75-count size desktop humidor, I've expanded into a smallish end-table humidor, and also constructed a DIY temperature-controlled Igloodor. Everything I've got uses Shilala/HCM beads. However, I confess that I do have active humidification in the end table because it was second hand and leaks a bit more than it should, and and I'm a lazy butt. One of these days I'll get some weather stripping and be done with it. :-)

I've always dealt with Mike (CigarNut) and he's a great guy; the product isn't so bad either (vast understatement, grin).

So far I've not had an RH blip that wasn't self inflicted or an hygrometer glitch. I do know for sure though, that if I ever grow past the 600 stick level I'm at now, you can be sure it'll be with HCM beads!

GREAT job, guys! Kudos for the science AND the great customer relations! My hat's off to you!
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jluck 12:34 PM 02-26-2012
Originally Posted by BHalbrooks:
Yea, I went to the website, and there was a pouch that comes in different sizes and weights. I'm not sure if you just put some water in it, and then just drop it off?
Nothing to do or add. Just buy the beads put them in your humidor and enjoy steady RH bliss.
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CigarNut 03:20 PM 02-26-2012
Originally Posted by BHalbrooks:
Yea, I went to the website, and there was a pouch that comes in different sizes and weights. I'm not sure if you just put some water in it, and then just drop it off?
You never add water directly to HCM beads. There are detailed instructions on the website and shipped with the beads that explain how to raise or lower the RH so I won't repeat them here. While it takes a litte time it is not too difficult.

The beads are shipped to you in a vacuum sealed bag at 65% RH. All you need to do is place them in your humidor, they can go anywhere in your humidor, most people place them on the bottom. It is OK if the beads touch your cigars.
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BHalbrooks 03:43 PM 02-26-2012
Originally Posted by jluck:
Nothing to do or add. Just buy the beads put them in your humidor and enjoy steady RH bliss.
Originally Posted by CigarNut:
You never add water directly to HCM beads. There are detailed instructions on the website and shipped with the beads that explain how to raise or lower the RH so I won't repeat them here. While it takes a litte time it is not too difficult.

The beads are shipped to you in a vacuum sealed bag at 65% RH. All you need to do is place them in your humidor, they can go anywhere in your humidor, most people place them on the bottom. It is OK if the beads touch your cigars.
:-)
haha thanks. That's where I was confused.
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Bad Finger 05:18 PM 02-26-2012
What is the reason for the specific size of the beads? To add surface area over what larger beads offer? Sorry, just had me curious.
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