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wayner123 11:14 AM 12-21-2010
Over the years I have heard many reasons for snorking and how it helps to "taste" a cigar better. And it has been said that NC smokers for the most part are mouth only smokers. There are also a numbers of reasons people come to this conclusion, but most often it seems that it's because NC smokers don't retrohale/snork a cigar. I will agree that for some reason it seems that retrohaling a CC is much easier on the sinuses than a NC. And for that reason I have been experimenting.

I usually snork pretty much any cigar. I have bad sinuses but I don't let that stop me. No pain no gain right?? :-) But some people either can't do it because of the pain/burn associated with it, or they just can't get the method correct. I propose a new method though, that I think pretty much anyone can do and has great results. They provide equal or greater "flavor/taste" than that of snorking. Here is the method:

Take a puff of your cigar. Then make sure you have enough air by closing your mouth and breathing in through your nose. Then simply open your mouth and breath out your nose. The smoke will find it's way out of your mouth and you will be getting the "flavor" through your nose. If there is any smoke left over in your mouth, you can help it out with your tongue or simply exhale it out to clear your mouth for the next puff. It's sort of a way to cheat snorking. I find that doing this helps to improve flavor while not burning your sinuses. Which may result in an even potent result.

I know some of you may read this and think who cares, smoke how you like. But I know others will enjoying trying something new and it's something I have been experimenting with. To each their own. :-)
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Doctorossi 11:17 AM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by wayner123:
And it has been said that NC smokers for the most part are mouth only smokers.
A lot of things "have been said"... :-)
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quantim0 12:03 PM 12-21-2010
I have no problem doing it with most NCs. Once I got used to the burn, it's pretty easy. I know certain cigars need a smaller amount of smoke though the nose, so I take precautions to make sure I don't kill myself.
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Chainsaw13 12:16 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by quantim0:
I have no problem doing it with most NCs. Once I got used to the burn, it's pretty easy. I know certain cigars need a smaller amount of smoke though the nose, so I take precautions to make sure I don't kill myself.
:-)
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Bill86 12:18 PM 12-21-2010
It isn't that I cannot snork or retro hale a NC it's that all I usually get is a huge pepper blast. It is just not pleasant. As I retrohale this Monte no.2 my nose picks up the smell of the flavors in the cigar, not pepper. That said there are few NCs that are nice to snork but not enough that I'm going to try it with every one I smoke.
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Doctorossi 12:29 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by Bill86:
That said there are few NCs that are nice to snork but not enough that I'm going to try it with every one I smoke.
In my experience, it's pretty easy to tell from a regular draw/exhale whether you're going to get a pepper explosion in your nostrils if you snork. I would only put the line between NCs and CCs in the sense that the pepper-bomb sticks are the ones that are difficult for snorking and there aren't really any CC pepper-bombs. At the same time, there are many, many, many non-pepper-bomb NCs and I find a lot of them to be both entirely pleasant and very revealing/educational/tasty to snork.

Or, to make a long story short, I call :-) on the "CCs are for snorkers and NCs are for non-snorkers" myth. :-)
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JoeCool87TC 12:32 PM 12-21-2010
Relative newbie chiming in here - I retrohale at least a little of every stick I smoke. In my experience (what there is of it) there are some that are nice and produce additional "flavours", some that are not-so-nice and just burn, and the remainder a combination of the two; these I just cut back on the amount of smoke that is retrohaled. I still do it though because it contributes to my smoking enjoyment. Hey - I like spicy food, too!

Now that I've finally experienced my first CC, though, I've personally observed how much smoother (and somehow "fuller") their smoke seems to be, at least on my limited single stick sample stogie :-). However, it also "burned" a bit, too - so in IMHO it wasn't perfect either.

Therefore I puff away regardless and just chalk the experience up with that old phrase "It's all good!" :-) and continue from there.

:-) Enjoy, smoke 'em if you've got 'em! :-)
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Doctorossi 12:37 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by JoeCool87TC:
Now that I've finally experienced my first CC, though, I've personally experienced how much smoother their smoke seems to be. However, the one stick I've tried so far also "burned" a bit, too - IMHO it wasn't perfect either.
There definitely are some that are "perfect". You'll dig 'em when they find you. :-)
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wayner123 12:41 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by quantim0:
I have no problem doing it with most NCs. Once I got used to the burn, it's pretty easy. I know certain cigars need a smaller amount of smoke though the nose, so I take precautions to make sure I don't kill myself.
Originally Posted by Doctorossi:
In my experience, it's pretty easy to tell from a regular draw/exhale whether you're going to get a pepper explosion in your nostrils if you snork. I would only put the line between NCs and CCs in the sense that the pepper-bomb sticks are the ones that are difficult for snorking and there aren't really any CC pepper-bombs. At the same time, there are many, many, many non-pepper-bomb NCs and I find a lot of them to be both entirely pleasant and very revealing/educational/tasty to snork.

Or, to make a long story short, I call :-) on the "CCs are for snorkers and NCs are for non-snorkers" myth. :-)

I really didn't post this thread to become an argument over whether or not NC's are for mouth smoker's only. Or whether or not someone can snork a NC. I posted this as a new method for people to try. I find it works better than snorking. It doesn't matter if it's a NC or CC, this method gives more flavor to me.

Why not try it out, then report back with your findings. I think that might provide much better discussion than arguing over whether or not NC's burn.
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Doctorossi 12:59 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by wayner123:
I really didn't post this thread to become an argument over whether or not NC's are for mouth smoker's only.
:-) I didn't mean to jack your thread! :-)

Your method is kind like a "French inhale" without the stricter sense of "inhale" and is akin to the method of passing the lit end along under your nose (a good inch away) as you breathe in lightly. Helpful techniques, both.
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wayner123 01:00 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by Doctorossi:
:-) I didn't mean to jack your thread! :-)

Your method is kind like a "French inhale" without the stricter sense of "inhale" and is akin to the method of passing the lit end along under your nose (a good inch away) as you breathe in lightly. Helpful techniques, both.
No worries. But it's not the french inhale. The method I proposed relies on retronasal recptors instead of orthonasal ones.
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Doctorossi 01:10 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by wayner123:
The method I proposed relies on retronasal recptors instead of orthonasal ones.
I see. I was picturing your method incorrectly. I re-read your description and understand it now. :-)
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loki 01:12 PM 12-21-2010
i hear this only works if you can taste butane
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icehog3 01:29 PM 12-21-2010
I snork both. I like CCs better for snorking, generally speaking.

Smoke what you like, like what you smoke, take a deep breath.
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babybob2k 01:29 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Take a puff of your cigar. Then make sure you have enough air by closing your mouth and breathing in through your nose. Then simply open your mouth and breath out your nose. The smoke will find it's way out of your mouth and you will be getting the "flavor" through your nose. If there is any smoke left over in your mouth, you can help it out with your tongue or simply exhale it out to clear your mouth for the next puff. It's sort of a way to cheat snorking. I find that doing this helps to improve flavor while not burning your sinuses. Which may result in an even potent result.
This is exactly what I do, but I've never found a good way to put it into words. I like the added taste, but really can't stand a ton of peppery smoke coming through my nose. I've found that you can get it in your sinuses just fine without a full nose exhale.
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Doctorossi 01:34 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I snork both. I like CCs better for snorking, generally speaking.
The Gurkhas make Tom's nose itch.
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icehog3 01:36 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by Doctorossi:
The Gurkhas make Tom's nose itch.
I died once from snorking a Gurkha.




I got better. :-)
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landhoney 01:39 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Snork what you like, like what you snork, take a deep breath.
Edited for accuracy regarding thread theme. :-):-)

Also, I will try the technique, I like it regular style but why not try Wayner style. :-)
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rizzle 01:40 PM 12-21-2010
Originally Posted by loki:
i hear this only works if you can taste butane
Or preferably ammonia.
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guitar4001 09:57 AM 12-22-2010
there is a vid on youtube with some guy teaching about retrohaling...he is WAY too into the method.
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