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Blak Smyth 07:46 AM 09-19-2011
I have been thinking about starting to do cigar artwork.
I have created this thread to discuss my art, get opinions and display what I have created.


I did my first cigar art pencil sketch this weekend, what do you guys think?
It is about 9"-10" long. It looks much better than the pic gives it justice.

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irratebass 08:20 AM 09-19-2011
Looks good and better than I could do :-)
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wayner123 08:22 AM 09-19-2011
I mean no disrespect personally, but I don't see this as art. It's a simple drawing or sketch. It doesn't convey anything to me other than it's a cigar.
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Blak Smyth 08:33 AM 09-19-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
I mean no disrespect personally, but I don't see this as art. It's a simple drawing or sketch. It doesn't convey anything to me other than it's a cigar.
I see your point, this "is" only a sketch. It is a starting point, I have not done any cigar art yet so I am just testing the waters.
Personally I see a simple drawing or sketch as art, if it speaks to you personally or not.
Thanks for the opinion though, I respect your honesty.
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irratebass 08:42 AM 09-19-2011
Isn't art in the eye of the beholder as well?
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WittyUserName 09:28 AM 09-19-2011
Shane, that is awesome!! Keep up the good work. I love pencil sketches, my grandfather used to sketch his grandchildren and I have a few of them.
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Blak Smyth 09:55 AM 09-19-2011
Originally Posted by WittyUserName:
Shane, that is awesome!! Keep up the good work. I love pencil sketches, my grandfather used to sketch his grandchildren and I have a few of them.
That is awesome, make sure you protect those. Those sound like something you want to keep and pass down!
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wayner123 10:29 AM 09-19-2011
Originally Posted by irratebass:
Isn't art in the eye of the beholder as well?
Yes, it is. But he was looking for comments and I made a point to say that "to me" it wasn't.
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irratebass 10:41 AM 09-19-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Yes, it is. But he was looking for comments and I made a point to say that "to me" it wasn't.
Understood :-) That's why I don't really get art, I don't always see what I should and I don't know how to preceive it sometimes that it just frustrates me, but I see your point.
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14holestogie 11:26 AM 09-19-2011
Looks fine to me, Shane. Growing up surrounded by artistic siblings and other family with not a lick of skill in me, I appreciate your work for what it is. With that said, I think once you get past the sketching phase and into bringing something original from within you to the pad or canvas, that's when you'll really get some accolades. :-)
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lawrand 02:31 PM 09-19-2011
We are not the first group to ever ask "What is art?". Probably few topics have been more debated excepting "What is the best caliber - 9mm or 45ACP?". While some like wayner123 may not view the simple pencil sketch as "art", the sketch strikes an emotional chord in Mickey and he sees art. Opinions differ, that gives flavor to life.

Whether or not we will agree if it is art, I suspect most,if not all of us will agree that you are an "artist". I say this because of the work you have done on your avatars and their reception in this forum. That work really stands on it's own.

Whatever anyone thinks of your sketch (and I like it very much), I believe that it is only a seed that has been planted and that you certainly have the talent to grow that seed and if it is not "art", it will most certainly lead to "art".

Please do not think I am being flippant or sarcastic, because I'm not. You have the beginnings of a dream and some talent. Pursue that dream. If the art is in you, it will surface.
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Ogre 02:37 PM 09-19-2011
IMO it is art. Its a skill that not all have. Some people would consider the shed I built art. Its all in what you consider it to be. I like what you have done.
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mkarnold1 02:38 PM 09-19-2011
Nice matting and a black frame and I would put that on my man room wall.
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Bill86 02:49 PM 09-19-2011
Originally Posted by irratebass:
Understood :-) That's why I don't really get art, I don't always see what I should and I don't know how to preceive it sometimes that it just frustrates me, but I see your point.
Yep it's cool that people can draw and paint but more often than not..... I don't get it.

That said looks good.
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Blak Smyth 08:56 AM 09-20-2011
Okay, so I realize this is very raw and sloppy but that's why I like it.
I was just laying an outline to start painting from and after I was done for the night I actually liked the base outline the way it is. It's kind of dark and raw.
It is a work in progress but I figured I would share:

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My plan is to have a cigar in the mouth with the smoke rising up on the left.
I really can't decide if I will detail this or just keep it this sloppy raw look, we will have to see.
I assume this style will appeal more to my personal tastes than most of yours.

Any comments so far?

By the way,
Mike (muhren) is a great painter and a truly generous BOTL. We have been talking in PM's and he has been very helpfull! I highly recomend supporting him and his art! I really appreciate all your help Mike!

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Emjaysmash 09:07 AM 09-20-2011
I like them all.

Please make more.
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WittyUserName 09:23 AM 09-20-2011
Brilliant!!!
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irratebass 09:31 AM 09-20-2011
Originally Posted by Bill86:
Yep it's cool that people can draw and paint but more often than not..... I don't get it.

That said looks good.
:-)
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shilala 10:11 AM 09-20-2011
I think the pencil sketch is awesome. While the painting is meritous technically, I don't like the subject matter, so it doesn't make me really "look at it", ya know? I had to go back and take a good look (twice) before I was ready to comment, just to be fair, and say it's really pretty awesome. How anyone can make paint do anything is beyond me, and the skull is really very complicated and intricate.
Well done, my man. :-)
I think you're going to really make this thing go in a big way.
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jonumberone 10:13 AM 09-20-2011
I'm really digging the Skull, Shane!
Very excited to see the finished piece!
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