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smitty81 09:09 AM 04-19-2012
This is an interesting article. I did some googling around on this incident and it seems there are two sides of the story. Seems to me the cop needs better training.


http://gma.yahoo.com/austin-police-c...opstories.html

Thoughts?
Skywalker 09:25 AM 04-19-2012
:-) "He was a good boy!"
Blak Smyth 09:28 AM 04-19-2012
I feel bad for the dog owner as well as the officer.
smitty81 09:34 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
I feel bad for the dog owner as well as the officer.
I don't really feel bad for the officer, this incident could have been avoided if he wasn't so gun-ho. :-)

There was nothing going on at the address he was sent to. Don't understand why he had he gun drawn on the guy in the first place.
Whee 09:37 AM 04-19-2012
I think if you're not an LEO or have never been an LEO, to presume that he was "gun-ho" or poorly trained is wrong.

Respond to a 911 and be prepared for anything. Or end up shot by someone acting like nothing is wrong.:-)
smitty81 09:39 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by illinoishoosier:
I think if you're not an LEO or have never been an LEO, to presume that he was "gun-ho" or poorly trained is wrong.

Respond to a 911 and be prepared for anything. Or end up shot by someone acting like nothing is wrong.:-)
So you just pull your gun on someone on every call you go to?

The guy never ran, resisted, hid, argued............
never_enough 09:52 AM 04-19-2012
Sucks all around.

And it makes me miss my dog, his name was Cisco.
14holestogie 10:01 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by smitty81:
So you just pull your gun on someone on every call you go to?

The guy never ran, resisted, hid, argued............
If you're coming into an unidentified 911 situation, absolutely. :-)
icehog3 10:15 AM 04-19-2012
Like people are saying, if you have never been a cop and have no LEO training, your opinion on the cop is pretty meaningless to those of us that have.

I agree with Shane, I feel bad for them both. I am sure the officer feels like sh!t. :-)
hotreds 10:16 AM 04-19-2012
tragic
Remo 10:22 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by smitty81:
I don't really feel bad for the officer, this incident could have been avoided if he wasn't so gun-ho. :-)

There was nothing going on at the address he was sent to. Don't understand why he had he gun drawn on the guy in the first place.
Not responding to this for fear of being banned from CA.
icehog3 10:25 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by Remo_5_0:
Not responding to this for fear of being banned from CA.
Just someone who knows nothing about it weighing in with their opinion, Mike.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if they know nothing about the subject, right? :-)
pnoon 10:26 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Like people are saying, if you have never been a cop and have no LEO training, your opinion on the cop is pretty meaningless to those of us that have.
AND to many of us who haven't.
:-)
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smitty81 10:49 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by pnoon:
AND to many of us who haven't.
:-)
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To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.
smitty81 10:51 AM 04-19-2012
Just for the record, I don't hate cops. In fact, I respect them for what they do. I just felt this could have been avoided and the situation got out of hand.
jluck 10:52 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by smitty81:
To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.
Put the shovel down, Josh.
14holestogie 10:54 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by jluck:
Put the shovel down, Josh.
^ this
Remo 10:58 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by smitty81:
To each their own. I don't like the opinions of others here as well but they are entitled to them rather I like them or not.

Water off a ducks back.
Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but someone's opinion should be on a topic that they at least know something about, I try only to chime in with my opinion on things that I may have some knowledge about... for instance you will never see me have an opinion on CC's as I have no knowledge of them and for me to have an opinion on them would make me look Ignorant.
Remo 11:02 AM 04-19-2012
Originally Posted by smitty81:
This is an interesting article. I did some googling around on this incident and it seems there are two sides of the story. Seems to me the cop needs better training.


http://gma.yahoo.com/austin-police-c...opstories.html

Thoughts?
It was already answered in your original statement.
Pseudosacred 11:03 AM 04-19-2012
I'm going to go ahead and say that this cop should be fired. I mean, first of all, he was at the wrong address. It doesn't take a genius to realize the difference between a man who is breaking the law or a man that is not.

I don't think this is a matter of being a cop or not. From what I understand, you only draw your weapon on someone who poses a threat. A man who has his hands up is NOT a threat in any way.

Also, shooting a dog that's barking and "running toward you" is just ridiculous. That cop must have been a scared little man to be that intimidated by a 50 lb. dog.

Personally, though, I have had an experiance where I was pulled over at gunpoint due to false allegations of a "breaking & entering". I told this kid that cigarettes make him look like an idiot and he got really mad (I guess, he never said anything to me) so he filed a fake police report that I broke in, stole his laptop and drove by holding it out the window. I was driving to go meet my friends and play hockey and like...400ft from the rink, a cop turns his sirens on behind me. I pulled over and the guy gets out and posts up with his gun drawn. I was scared sh**less. He figured out that it was all a lie, but I still pressed charges and got him fired. He had NO reason to pull a gun. A taser? maybe. A gun is just wrong to pull on someone who isn't belligerant.

There's my :-)
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