jbo57 08:57 PM 10-19-2009
I'm a little bummed tonight. I've been looking forward to this cruise for nine months. One of the things I was looking forward to was sitting on my balcony and enjoying a good cigar. Tonight I find out that you can smoke cigarettes on the balcony but not pipes or cigars. I've called them and verified this. Cigarettes only. I have no idea what kind of sense this makes, but I guess a rule is a rule. You can smoke cigars in the casino and the cigar bar...bummer.
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RightAJ 08:59 PM 10-19-2009
What cruise line?
I went on RC recently and they had a Conissuers (sp?) lounge for cigar smokers... it was beautiful. Leather furniture and nice jazz music and drinks to order
:-)
Spent ALOT of time in there haha
Have fun!
aj
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Cigar_Noob 09:02 PM 10-19-2009
That really doesn't make any sense...I honestly can't see what makes a Cigar or Pipe any more different from smoking a cigarette up there? other than the aroma of the smoke is much more pleasing
:-)
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jbo57 09:04 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by RightAJ:
What cruise line?
I went on RC recently and they had a Conissuers (sp?) lounge for cigar smokers... it was beautiful. Leather furniture and nice jazz music and drinks to order :-)
Spent ALOT of time in there haha
Have fun!
aj
Norwegian...and they have a cigar bar called the Corona. It just bums me because I was really looking forward to sitting on my balcony at night with a good cigar. I've been waiting nine months.
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Cigary 09:06 PM 10-19-2009
It pays to check before you book your cruise. I just got back last Friday from my cruise to the Bahamas on Royal Carribean and they set aside 3 starboard floors where you can smoke cigars. Some of the ships even have a nice area set aside with leather chairs and library area ( Holland America ) and it's great. Some ships have gone NO SMOKING all over the ship.
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nayslayer 09:09 PM 10-19-2009
wow, thats bullsh!t. Just tell them it's a big brown cigarette
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jbo57 09:11 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by Cigary:
It pays to check before you book your cruise. I just got back last Friday from my cruise to the Bahamas on Royal Carribean and they set aside 3 starboard floors where you can smoke cigars. Some of the ships even have a nice area set aside with leather chairs and library area ( Holland America ) and it's great. Some ships have gone NO SMOKING all over the ship.
Yeah, I agree. We checked when we booked the cruise...but didn't ask the MAGIC question. We asked about smoking and we asked about balcony's, but we didn't ask about smoking CIGARS on the BALCONY. I still don't think it makes sense, but I'm sure they have SOME reason. I can smoke in the cigar bar.
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MedicCook 09:12 PM 10-19-2009
I would probably still smoke on the balcony.
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Cigar_Noob 09:12 PM 10-19-2009
of ALL the balconies on this ship...who's really going to notice you smoke one ay? *hint hint*
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icehog3 09:12 PM 10-19-2009
I would be spending every waking moment in the casino and cigar bar, my Brother.
:-)
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Ashcan Bill 09:15 PM 10-19-2009
We're leaving on an NCL cruise on Halloween. Trust me, I'll be smoking cigars on my balcony.
:-)
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Cigary 09:21 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by jbo57:
Yeah, I agree. We checked when we booked the cruise...but didn't ask the MAGIC question. We asked about smoking and we asked about balcony's, but we didn't ask about smoking CIGARS on the BALCONY. I still don't think it makes sense, but I'm sure they have SOME reason. I can smoke in the cigar bar.
I cruise at least twice a year for the last 15 years and have seen this anti cigar smoking deal coming. I talk with a lot of the reps from the cruiselines and here is the real deal on cigars. Most patrons do not like the smell,,,period. Cigarettes do not cause the same ire as cigars because it is more accepted,,,period. Casinos are there to bring in money so they will let cigarettes in there as cigar smokers are not a majority. Balconies while they are outside means that cigar smoke travels backwards towards other balconies where people want to be outside,,,so the complaints are really heavy for people who dont like cigar smoke who paid extra to go outside and then feel they are being penalized for having to breath cigar smoke.
Cruise lines do not want to put in exhaust systems to deal with the effects of cigar smoke and they do not want to give up space in a room where it isn't being used except for a few hours a day. Space is a premium on a ship and they want to utilize space so they can make money.
Originally Posted by MedicCook:
I would probably still smoke on the balcony.
They are now "fining" customers who smoke in their cabins where they aren't supposed to smoke and neighbor cabin members are calling the desk to complain even more about their neighbors smoking on the balconies. I should know because the ships I have been on were ok with the policy of having cigars out there. I have been reported on Holland America, Carnival, Queen Mary 2, Princess Cruise Lines and it's only getting worse. This is why the cruise lines are slowly making their ships smoke free.
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jbo57 09:24 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by MedicCook:
I would probably still smoke on the balcony.
I floated that suggestion with the Mrs. and that's a really big no-go.
:-) I'll probably talk to someone when we get on the cruise to see if it's just one of those things they put in the book or if they are really serious about it...but if they are serious, I'll probably be spending some time in the cigar bar.
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tobii3 09:26 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by Ashcan Bill:
We're leaving on an NCL cruise on Halloween. Trust me, I'll be smoking cigars on my balcony. :-)
Did an NCL cruise a few years back - If they do the Cigars Under the Stars any more....you'll have a BLAST!
Did the Disney Cruise (7 day) earlier this year - didn't have a balcony, had the 6ft porthole window - and spent most of my time on the 9th or 10th deck. No complaints here!!
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jbo57 09:29 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by Cigar_Noob:
of ALL the balconies on this ship...who's really going to notice you smoke one ay? *hint hint*
My wife...my sister in law...my other sister in law...and my luck, every cruise employee and they would probably fly in a special cigar cop...
:-)
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DPD6030 09:32 PM 10-19-2009
Sorry to hear that. How are they going to know if you smoke a cigar on your balcony though. I would do it anyways.
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jbo57 09:33 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by Cigary:
I cruise at least twice a year for the last 15 years and have seen this anti cigar smoking deal coming. I talk with a lot of the reps from the cruiselines and here is the real deal on cigars. Most patrons do not like the smell,,,period. Cigarettes do not cause the same ire as cigars because it is more accepted,,,period. Casinos are there to bring in money so they will let cigarettes in there as cigar smokers are not a majority. Balconies while they are outside means that cigar smoke travels backwards towards other balconies where people want to be outside,,,so the complaints are really heavy for people who dont like cigar smoke who paid extra to go outside and then feel they are being penalized for having to breath cigar smoke.
Cruise lines do not want to put in exhaust systems to deal with the effects of cigar smoke and they do not want to give up space in a room where it isn't being used except for a few hours a day. Space is a premium on a ship and they want to utilize space so they can make money.
They are now "fining" customers who smoke in their cabins where they aren't supposed to smoke and neighbor cabin members are calling the desk to complain even more about their neighbors smoking on the balconies. I should know because the ships I have been on were ok with the policy of having cigars out there. I have been reported on Holland America, Carnival, Queen Mary 2, Princess Cruise Lines and it's only getting worse. This is why the cruise lines are slowly making their ships smoke free.
Thank you, my friend. That is the best and most concise explanation of what's going on. I appreciate it. It was a much better explanation than what I got from the NCL rep that I called. He told me to call their travel agent who would be much more up to speed than him. I'm not one to "rock the boat"...so to speak...and I am a believer in following the rules. If the rule is no cigars on balconies...I'll swallow hard and give up what I've been looking forward to for nine months. I'm sure I'll still have fun but I'm sure I'll spend more time in the Corona than I had planned.
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DPD6030 09:35 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by Cigary:
This is why the cruise lines are slowly making their ships smoke free.
This will never happen at least on Carnival. They tried it and lost their butts on revenue. They do have smoke free spa rooms though. So what happened when you were "reported" on the cruise lines for smoking?
Oh and I'm on the very aft of the ship, the only one that can smell me is most likely well me.
:-)
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jbo57 09:35 PM 10-19-2009
Originally Posted by tobii3:
Did an NCL cruise a few years back - If they do the Cigars Under the Stars any more....you'll have a BLAST!
Did the Disney Cruise (7 day) earlier this year - didn't have a balcony, had the 6ft porthole window - and spent most of my time on the 9th or 10th deck. No complaints here!!
They don't have anything about "cigars under the stars" in any of their promotions, but I'll keep an eye out for it in their newsletter when I get on board. thanks
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Cigar_Noob 09:36 PM 10-19-2009
If you really need to smoke a Cigar on the balcony smoke this
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Smells and tastes just like a cigarette
:-):-):-)
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