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quantim0 10:03 PM 06-29-2010
No one should be happy that cigars are excluded. When freedoms are attacked we need to stand against the offense, even if it doesn't directly affect us.
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neoflex 10:38 PM 06-29-2010
Could you imagine how much of a hit Priority would take if it included Cigars? Would it kill them? No, but I bet they would see a significant drop. Just my:-)
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MarkinAZ 11:33 PM 06-29-2010
Originally Posted by icehog3:
:-)
:-)In addition, nothing mentioned regarding pipe tobaccy too...


Originally Posted by jonumberone:
Now that we all know it doesn't include cigars does someone want to let the postal workers know? Spent 45 min in post office today while they goat a supervisor to decide if they would accept my package for the n.s.t.
Originally Posted by lightning9191:
Why did you tell them what is in it? Have everything packaged and take it in....I've never been asked what is in there...just "Is there anything liquid, hazardous, or perishable?"
:-)Basically, its none of their damned business what I'm shipping, because as far as I'm concerned, I'm shipping nothing that is illegal period! Just say "no" and ship it my brother...

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dyieldin 11:53 PM 06-29-2010
You can bet cigars will be in the list and soon. Tobacco is now controled by the govenment under the health care deal. Another note, the ATF is also rolled up into that mess. So what do we have here? A nightmare.
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jonumberone 04:47 AM 06-30-2010
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Do Click N Ship online. No questions asked :-)
One of the many things this noon has to learn. Thanks:-)

Originally Posted by lightning9191:
Why did you tell them what is in it? Have everything packaged and take it in....I've never been asked what is in there...just "Is there anything liquid, hazardous, or perishable?"
I didn't have a box. So I walked up to the counter cigars in hand, and bought a flat rate box that I packed up at the counter.
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elderboy02 05:06 AM 06-30-2010
Originally Posted by jonumberone:
One of the many things this noon has to learn. Thanks:-)



I didn't have a box. So I walked up to the counter cigars in hand, and bought a flat rate box that I packed up at the counter.
You can order the boxes online for free and have them delivered to your door. Just go to USPS.com and click on "Order Supplies". :-)
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Subvet642 06:35 AM 06-30-2010
Originally Posted by quantim0:
No one should be happy that cigars are excluded. When freedoms are attacked we need to stand against the offense, even if it doesn't directly affect us.
:-):-)
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lightning9191 07:31 AM 06-30-2010
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
You can order the boxes online for free and have them delivered to your door. Just go to USPS.com and click on "Order Supplies". :-)
:-) That's the way to do it! The video boxes are good sized for 5+ cigars.
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chippewastud79 07:35 AM 06-30-2010
Originally Posted by jonumberone:
I didn't have a box. So I walked up to the counter cigars in hand, and bought a flat rate box that I packed up at the counter.
Most offices have a large selection of boxes in a display used to advertise the flat rate priority shipping now that are available for the taking. I grab a handful most of the times I stop in. :-)
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TheModernSailor 02:43 PM 09-03-2010
Gentlemen,

I'm a service member that is deployed right now and I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on whats going on with this new law.

It's been in place about a month now and I've placed a few orders online with no problems, but today I woke up to this e-mail in my inbox:

"Mr. XXXXXX,

Thank you for your recent order. Unfortunately there is a tobacco restriction in place at the address you provided so we will not be able to ship there. Can you please provide an alternate shipping or would you need me to cancel the order? My sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

Anthony
Customer Service"

Anthony works for Famous Cigars. I snagged something off cigar monster and a little 5 pack to throw in because I was paying shipping anyways and I got this e-mail. I'm very surprised by it because the new law states that shipment of Cigars are not restricted.

Well I sent an e-mail back informing Anthony H. Sauerzopf at asauerzo@famous-smoke.com (in case you guys want to get in touch with him) that he was mistaken. I sent him some information (a copy of the law) to educated himself and peers that there is NO restriction on shipping cigars and that I was not canceling my order and I do NOT have an alternate shipping address because I'm floating around on a ship right now. I asked him to ship my lawfully covered items me. I also told him to please state his companies stance on shipment of cigars to APO/FPO so I can let all the other servicemembers know to take their business elsewhere.

Got anymore advice for me?
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ninjavanish 03:00 PM 09-03-2010
I don't think any advice is necessary. You were a victim of an individual or a group of individuals reckless idiocy.

I ship thousands of cigars through USPS... even some to Famous Cigars!

They should know better.

Not sure what to tell you though, maybe ask them to use UPS or FedEx?
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bigliver 07:49 PM 09-03-2010
I just placed an order with famous on the 1st. Shipped no problem, and I'm in Okinawa.
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T.G 08:11 PM 09-03-2010
Originally Posted by ninjavanish:
Not sure what to tell you though, maybe ask them to use UPS or FedEx?
UPS / FedEx won't deliver to APOs/FPOs. They need a physical street address.

Depending where TheModernSailor is deployed to, there might not be an alternate physical address or if there is, UPS/FedEx might not service/access that location/country, if they do, then there might be a whopper of an international delivery charge.
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T.G 08:18 PM 09-03-2010
Originally Posted by TheModernSailor:
Got anymore advice for me?
Escalate the ticket to a C/S lead/manager and if necessary, forward a copy of the regulations with the section highlighted (or notated if electronically sending) about it's ok to ship cigars to an APO/FPO to them.

Shop at Cigars International. They have no problems shipping to APO/FPOs.

If there is something that you must have from Famous, have your shipments from Famous sent to someone stateside that can re-mail the package to your APO/FPO.

Sucks, but that's about it for your options.
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bigdix 08:50 PM 09-03-2010
I'm so proud I defend you guys' right to have your rights taken away :-) Regulations like this are just plain silly. "Cigarette trafficking"? Really? How about expend the same time and energy solving real problems. Like monkey diseases. Poor monkeys. :-)
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JohnE1000 09:44 AM 09-07-2010
I say Botanical Herbs For Relaxation
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mobarbq 10:01 AM 09-07-2010
God save us from a government that thinks it needs to protect us from everything. Like with so many other issues, first they have to enlist the news media to create a "crisis", then there they are to protect us by new laws. So many children were getting cigarettes through the mail, I guess.
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dwoodward 10:42 AM 09-07-2010
Originally Posted by mobarbq:
God save us from a government that thinks it needs to protect us from everything. Like with so many other issues, first they have to enlist the news media to create a "crisis", then there they are to protect us by new laws. So many children were getting cigarettes through the mail, I guess.
Gosh, what a shame... 10 kids in the entire US were getting cigarettes in the mail. Good riddance, I am sure they were also the only 10 kids that didn't have atleast 2-3 friends over the age of 18 to buy the cigarettes for them.

Apparently this new law just says that kids don't smoke cigars apparently.
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pektel 10:44 AM 09-07-2010
Originally Posted by mobarbq:
God save us from a government that thinks it needs to protect us from everything. Like with so many other issues, first they have to enlist the news media to create a "crisis", then there they are to protect us by new laws.
Quoted for truth. Though this is nearing the line of political discussion, and we all know how that ends.
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icehog3 10:50 AM 09-07-2010
Originally Posted by pektel:
Quoted for truth. Though this is nearing the line of political discussion, and we all know how that ends.
Yup.
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