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shibby4781 06:15 PM 07-05-2012
Hi All! I'm wondering what the difference is? Actually, I know the fundamental difference. So why would someone choose one over the other? I'm in the market for a second lighter. I have been using a single flame torch but when that runs out and I don't feel like refilling right then and there I break out the trusty old Bic. I personally cannot tell a difference in the smoke either way.
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SmokeyJoe 06:20 PM 07-05-2012
Here is a link to a thread that discussed this topic, somewhat.

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/showth...ght=soft+flame

For me personally, I prefer the torch. :-)
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shilala 06:27 PM 07-05-2012
I just like a torch better, they're badass. If you can't tell a difference, and don't get any benefit from using one or the other, stick with your trusty old Bic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, brother!!! :-)
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Ogre 06:28 PM 07-05-2012
For toasting I prefer the torch. For touch ups and relights I like the soft flame. Guess I am of little help with this topic.
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longknocker 06:29 PM 07-05-2012
Overall I Like The Soft Flame Better, But I Use Both.:-)
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shibby4781 06:35 PM 07-05-2012
Thanks for the help everyone. It seems to be personal preference. It looks like I may pick up a second torch with a bigger fuel tank like the Blazer or Xikar Tech since I am outside smoking 98.994% of the time. Unless there are any other suggestions with a cheaper price tag. Also, I will still keep my Bic with me at all times!
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lilcgrsmkr 06:42 PM 07-05-2012
Originally Posted by shilala:
I just like a torch better, they're badass. If you can't tell a difference, and don't get any benefit from using one or the other, stick with your trusty old Bic. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, brother!!! :-)
that's right! i would have a collection of lighters with me, and they aren't working and someone would come around with a bic...and it works almost everytime..hahha:-)
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md4958 06:44 PM 07-05-2012
The soft flame just seems like a more relaxed, civilized way to light a cigars. That being said, I cant tell the difference and use a torch 99% of the time. The precision of a torch is also helpful for touch-ups.

Use whatever makes you happy, or is handy at the time.
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bobarian 06:48 PM 07-05-2012
Fire good. If it lights my cigar I'm happy. :-)
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physiognomy 06:48 PM 07-05-2012
Originally Posted by shibby4781:
... other suggestions with a cheaper price tag...
I've used these for years now... Shipping takes a while, but they are great lighters for the price.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/compact...t-lighter-4179
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shibby4781 06:52 PM 07-05-2012
Originally Posted by physiognomy:
I've used these for years now... Shipping takes a while, but they are great lighters for the price.

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/compact...t-lighter-4179
THAT IS PERFECT! THANK YOU! :-) I like the key ring so I can attach my cutters.
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Jasonw560 07:43 PM 07-05-2012
If it's not windy, I'll use my soft flame. If it's windy, I'll use my torch.
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N2 GOLD 09:29 PM 07-05-2012
Just use a BIG fat chunch of cedar...
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shopkins82 06:52 AM 07-06-2012
I gravitate towards a torch for anything over 50 ring gauge, and soft flame for anything under. For awhile I've been wanting to pick up a lighter that has both (Evertorch on the higher-priced size, Jobon Dual-Torch on the cheaper side) but haven't got around to it yet. The main reason for desiring the dual is that, even with larger ring gauges, I like to toast then draw in the flame directly... toasting with the torch then drawing in the soft flame seems like the ideal light to me.
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dwoodward 08:52 AM 07-06-2012
Originally Posted by shopkins82:
I gravitate towards a torch for anything over 50 ring gauge, and soft flame for anything under.
That's odd, I am actually the exact opposite. I find it a waste of butane to properly light anything over 50ish ring, when a single match can get the job done and usually better. But I suppose I prefer to match light anything anyway.
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Catfish 05:39 PM 07-22-2012
Me? Torch. Everytime. Quick, easy, windproof. I'm more capable with it for precision touch-ups. And at $3 apiece for a refillable lighter, I'll take it.
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mosesbotbol 06:55 PM 07-22-2012
If indoors, I'll go for the soft flame.
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Mikepd 07:16 PM 07-22-2012
The tool I use is a torch lighter that has a collar that allows immediate on the fly adjustment to a soft flame, and back to a torch when you want. There are a couple problems with a torch though that are inherent to the fact that it is a high pressure, forced flame. I mainly use the soft flame.

If you have continual issues with your lighting and burn I would suggest you reevaluate the tools you are using and the technique you have, as like with everything, lighting a cigar is an art in itself. For people who have had continual issues with their light and burn I suggest to buy a few dollar cigars, even cut them in half and try to light them, then let them go out immediately without smoking them. Once out delicately cut them open to see how your lighting technique is working and if you are going beyond just lighting the foot and work from there to improve.

There are other issues with torches like fuel use, cleaning, refilling & purging, and one vs two vs twelve jets that I can cover too if anyone would be interested in hearing but I feel like this post has gotten long enough now.
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