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Volusianator 03:54 PM 05-19-2011
Fantastic post! Similar to what I said earlier, drink what you like, like what you drink, smoke, drive, ride, eat...whatever the case may be.

Originally Posted by The Poet:
Chill, Chip. If you ignore the bears instead of poking them, maybe they will go elsewhere. And if not, so what?

I work in a wineshop, and we have some expensive stuff on the shelves . . . where most of it has been for a loooong time, and where it may likely stay for an even longer time. Even if you discount the fact that the vast majority of people cannot afford $100-$500 for a single bottle of wine, most of those who may have the financial resources do not see the point of it. Why should they spend that much when they may not be able to distinguish the difference anyway?

It is relatively easy to find a good bottle of wine in excess of the $30 price point Chip proposed. But it is just as easy to find good ones under that, and when you do it is more fun, more gratifying, and more fiscally responsible. Me, I'm much more pleased when I find a drinkable bottle for $10 than I would be were it twice . . . or 10 times . . . that price.

This post is full of my :-) regarding the overall issue, and totally lacking in any specific suggestions. But then, who wants to rely on the taste of a guy who buys bundled cigars? :-)

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MajorCaptSilly 04:00 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by markem:
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.
Sticky material right there.

MCS
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mmblz 05:46 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly:
Sticky material right there.

MCS
Cotton candy or pine pitch?




Barefoot Chardonnay is pretty good for the price even if there are others I would prefer to be drinking :-)
Menage a Trois someone mentioned - like the Rose
A to Z Pinot Noir

$30 is a high enough bar to find plenty of good wines...
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Volusianator 05:54 PM 05-19-2011
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.
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icehog3 06:04 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by Volusianator:
I know you said wine and not port, but if I can add a port to the mix, I really enjoy Grahams 6 Grapes, for under $20 a bottle, it's a great ruby.
:-) :-)
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TheRiddick 08:04 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by markem:
Calm down gang. It is, unfortunately, common for some to stomp all over a thread that they deem inferior or something like that. Those people come and go and those who have been here for a while learn that not every post in a thread will be wanted or appreciated. The more you feed their ego by drawing attention to their games, the longer they will stay. Just as it is good sense to ignore the loud mouth at the bar and let the management deal with them, so it is here.
Please remind me, did I miss your illuminating wine related posts elsewhere?

As opposed to a bunch of mine, discussing and recommending wines AT ALL PRICE POINTS, in a number of threads. So, as trolling goes, look in the mirror...
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I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines. For someone above equating pleasure quotient of wine versus cigar all I can say is that even the largest cigar is no more than what, 3+ hours of pleasure, yet a bottle of wine can deliver pleasure over 2-3 days if need be. Some, like sherries, can stay open for years and deliver great pleasure for that long. Where does price come into this equation?

As much as I tell people to drink (and smoke) what they like I, basically, would rather drink good beer than bad wine, and plain water rather bad beer. Many of the wines mentioned in these "cheap wine" threads are barely wine, many are simply chemical concoctions. Many use oak by-products and food/color additives to cover bad fruit. Thus, my usual questions as to why one would demand pure tobacco and yet subject his internals to chemical crap. I say stick to beer instead (or whatever your other beverage of choice may be).

Those of you above who immediately lumped me into the "only high price products" category obviously know nothing about me. I always look for value, and yes, sometimes that value can actually be a higher priced product. And many a time price is the true measuring stick, low price means low quality. Yeah, I know, a novel concept to most of you in the thread (sorry for sarcasm).

So, how many drive a Yugo? Or cheapest,20 year old Hiunday/Nissan? Why not?

All I see is threads upon threads on Tats/DPG/Viaje/etc/etc/etc, almost never threads on cheapest bundles from Famous/CI/second tier/third tier cigars that are in same league, quality wise, as many of the wines discussed.

But hey, its your liver, (ab)use it any way you want.



For the record, depending on the batch and varietal I would take a 2 Buck Chuck over many of the wines mentioned.
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Volusianator 08:32 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by TheRiddick:
Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.
So? Why let that bother you?
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markem 09:22 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by TheRiddick:
I was simply asking and commenting. Because time and again we see threads upon threads of people chasing HIGH PRICED cigars and yet all we see is threads based on LOW PRICE wines.
Start one. You do know how to do that, right?
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icehog3 09:54 PM 05-19-2011
We have threads on cheap bundle smokes, value cigars, etc.....A member can't start a value wine thread without getting your dander up?

Drink what you like (everyone), like what you drink (everyone), and don't take yourself too seriously. :-)
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replicant_argent 10:05 PM 05-19-2011
I suggest 3 buck chuck :-)
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icehog3 10:12 PM 05-19-2011
Originally Posted by replicant_argent:
I suggest 3 buck chuck :-)
I've had it, and thought it was worth at least four-fitty. :-)
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pektel 11:00 PM 05-19-2011
Back on topic, shall we?

For everyday value wines, I like fetzer and bogle. Fetzer runs under $7 and bogle runs under $10 at the local walmart liquor store here. I really like frei brothers Cabernet as well. About $20, and delicious as far as my palate is concerned.

For super cheap, I've been able to rather enjoy yellow tail merlot, though it's one of those chemical concoctions riddick was referring to.
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hammondc 06:35 AM 05-20-2011
I agree on Bogle. Good, solid stuff for ~$10. The Pinot and Cab are very good.

Had some Castle Rock Pinot last night. Very good stuff. Paired up with an Illusione Nostros. It was a good night.
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pnoon 06:36 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by pektel:
Back on topic, shall we?
You can bet on it.
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Subvet642 06:39 AM 05-20-2011
As for myself, I don't know a lot about wines, but I know what I like. I don't have a refined palette, but, for a bargain bottle I like the Gallo Hearty Burgundy.
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mosesbotbol 06:49 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by hammondc:
WTF...why all this crapping in my thread? I am fukcing thrilled to no end that XLC and Riddick can afford to smoke the best smokes and drink the best wine. That is not what this thread is for. If you have nothing nice to say....go start your own thread*.....jerks.
Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.
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OnlyDryReds 07:56 AM 05-20-2011
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.
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pnoon 08:44 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by OnlyDryReds:
Sat out on the patio last night with wife and my parents and we had a nice mondavi Sauvignon Blanc that wife had picked up on sale for 8.99... Nice, fruity, light, worked well on a warm sping night.
Looks like you may have to consider changing your user name. :-)
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NCRadioMan 08:56 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
Aristotle said “General questions can only have general answers”. This thread is too general for me to suggest bottles under $20 with narrowing the scope some. Do you like new world or old world wines? Single varietal or blends? Red, white, sparkling, fortified, or rose? Do you want big names easy to find or more obscure gems in that price range.

The majority of wines I drink and taste are in that price range, but without knowing what kind of wines you like, it's hard to make suggestions. $20 can buy a heck of wine.
This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.
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xlc12rf 09:21 AM 05-20-2011
Originally Posted by NCRadioMan:
This thread isn't about what he likes, it's what you like so post away Moses, as I am interested to see the list.
x2

I love finding cheap, drinkable wine.
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