kayaker 08:08 PM 11-24-2008
Just thought I would start a thread where people can ask and answer questions and this great beverage, and share our knowledge.
I am by no means an expert, but I have learned a couple of things in the last couple of years and I like sharing my interest with others.
Please feel free to ask anything you want to know. Can't promise I will be able to answer, but hopefully someone else will chime in.
Please feel free to answer any questions, share you knowledge and experiences.
Let's have some fun (and a dram or two).
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kayaker 08:15 PM 11-24-2008
Thought I would start by giving you my definition/explanation about SMSW. I do it backwards:
Whisky = fermented grain (corn, rye, barley…) which is then distilled, usually aged in oak barrels (eg. rye, malt, bourbon).
Scotch = Whisky from Scotland only, has to be aged 3 years min., and must be distilled, aged, bottled in Scotland.
Malt = barley that has been soaked and allowed to germinate to maximize sugars, then dried, crushed and made into beer, which is then distilled.
Single = whisky that comes from one distillery only.
So SMSW is a Scotch whisky made from malted barley and from a single distillery.
Is that as clear as mud?
:-)
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mikeyj23 08:15 PM 11-24-2008
Is a dram a specified amount, just "a pour" or both? I know a "shot" can be 1.5oz, or just a term. What's a dram?
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kayaker 08:23 PM 11-24-2008
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
Is a dram a specified amount, just "a pour" or both? I know a "shot" can be 1.5oz, or just a term. What's a dram?
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To my knowledge there is no specific amount. You can have a wee dram, or a big one. I guess it just refers to a serving of indeterminate volume.
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mrreindeer 08:35 PM 11-24-2008
Originally Posted by kayaker:
I am by no means an expert....
You sure about that Ian? You, Scott & a handful of others have certainly been a great help for me as I head headfirst down the scotch slope.
This is a great idea!
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Cigary 11:03 PM 11-24-2008
While I don't like scotch as a rule I can't drink enough Drambuie,,which is a scotch whiskey with honey and herbs. If anyone else has had this is there another type of scotch that compares taste wise?
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kayaker 11:21 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Cigary:
While I don't like scotch as a rule I can't drink enough Drambuie,,which is a scotch whiskey with honey and herbs. If anyone else has had this is there another type of scotch that compares taste wise?
I haven't had Drambuie in a while and can't remember it. My guess is it would be sweeter than Scotch would normally be. You might want to try something like an Arran Island malt, which would be pretty light and a bit fruity in taste.
Anyone else have a recommendation?
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Scottw 11:45 AM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by kayaker:
I haven't had Drambuie in a while and can't remember it. My guess is it would be sweeter than Scotch would normally be. You might want to try something like an Arran Island malt, which would be pretty light and a bit fruity in taste.
Anyone else have a recommendation?
Anything from the Lowland regions would be lighter and fruitier with no peat or smoke. The Glenkinchie is a great one to start with at around $40 per bottle.
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elderboy02 11:50 AM 11-25-2008
I have never had Scotch before. What is a good beginner Scotch?
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Scottw 12:00 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
I have never had Scotch before. What is a good beginner Scotch?
I would start with a Lowland if you are going the single malt rout. Cheaper Lowland is McClelland's which can be had for about $22 per bottle. The Glenkinchie which is a beautiful Lowland is about double that. Remember, the bottle does NOT go in the fridge or freezer for shots, it is to be nurtured, poured gently, sniffed, swirled and tasted. It really is an experience. Please try it and keep us posted!
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elderboy02 12:02 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Scottw:
I would start with a Lowland if you are going the single malt rout. Cheaper Lowland is McClelland's which can be had for about $22 per bottle. The Glenkinchie which is a beautiful Lowland is about double that. Remember, the bottle does NOT go in the fridge or freezer for shots, it is to be nurtured, poured gently, sniffed, swirled and tasted. It really is an experience. Please try it and keep us posted!
So I drink it straight and warm? I can't mix it with Coke?
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JohnnyFlake 12:05 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
Is a dram a specified amount, just "a pour" or both? I know a "shot" can be 1.5oz, or just a term. What's a dram?
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Actually there is a specific measurement for a Dram, with reference to liquid. A Dram is 1/8th of an ounce!
However, when the word Dram is used with respect to liquor, I doubt that the actual definition is intended. Many say that they will be having "A Wee Dram of Scotch" the intended meaning, is obviously a small amount of scotch, maybe a half shot, of something like that, and not just 1/8th of an ounce!
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Scottw 12:09 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
So I drink it straight and warm? I can't mix it with Coke?
Straight and Warm = neat, maybe a few drops of water to open it up a bit. You can mix it or do with it whatever you'd like. My wife wanted a scotch and soda one day and put Diet Coke in the Balvenie 21 year old (Over $120 per bottle). If she wasn't my wife I would have judo chopped her in the throat.
What I'm suggesting to you is trying the whole scotch experience. Try it for what it is, if you want to mix something with Coke, grab a cheap bottle of Jim Beam and have at it. Scotch Whisky is a horse of a different color.
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elderboy02 12:17 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by Scottw:
Straight and Warm = neat, maybe a few drops of water to open it up a bit. You can mix it or do with it whatever you'd like. My wife wanted a scotch and soda one day and put Diet Coke in the Balvenie 21 year old (Over $120 per bottle). If she wasn't my wife I would have judo chopped her in the throat.
What I'm suggesting to you is trying the whole scotch experience. Try it for what it is, if you want to mix something with Coke, grab a cheap bottle of Jim Beam and have at it. Scotch Whisky is a horse of a different color.
Gotcha. Does scotch burn more than bourbon?
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Scottw 12:22 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
Gotcha. Does scotch burn more than bourbon?
Depends on the quality. Cheap bourbon burns and so does cheap scotch.
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Cigary 03:13 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by kayaker:
I haven't had Drambuie in a while and can't remember it. My guess is it would be sweeter than Scotch would normally be. You might want to try something like an Arran Island malt, which would be pretty light and a bit fruity in taste.
Anyone else have a recommendation?
Good Post here, Kayaker,,,I always try to expand my horizons with different tastes but have never heard what an Arran Island malt is,,where might I find something in this taste or the name of the scotch?
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Heliofire 03:28 PM 11-25-2008
My favorites are the Glenmorangie Nectar D'or and the new Glenmorangie Signet.
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icurrie 03:33 PM 11-25-2008
I had a great experience touring Scotland's oldest distillery, Glenturret. I was there about 8 years ago and really learned alot there. Also got to enjoy the samples. Great stuff.
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macpappy 03:53 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by kayaker:
I haven't had Drambuie in a while and can't remember it. My guess is it would be sweeter than Scotch would normally be. You might want to try something like an Arran Island malt, which would be pretty light and a bit fruity in taste.
Anyone else have a recommendation?
Actually I find the scotch from the Speyside region to be lighter and sweeter than other regions. It's also has less of a smokey peat taste than other regions.
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macpappy 03:56 PM 11-25-2008
Originally Posted by elderboy02:
I have never had Scotch before. What is a good beginner Scotch?
Glenlivet is good. I've also developed a liking for McClelland's Single Malt from the Speyside region and it's relatively inexpensive. I get it for $20 a bottle. They also have a McClelland's Highland, Lowland and Islay. I would suggest buying a bottle of each and deciding which profile you like best. Then start exploring more expensive scotch from that region. My current favorite is The Glenrothes. I'm working on a bottle of vintage 1991 right now. The older vintages are even better.
I also have a bottle of Glenlivet Nadurra that is very good.
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