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Coffee Discussion>Mokapots, Moka, or Stovetop Espresso, Period.
MarkinAZ 10:34 PM 12-18-2011
I think Santa is getting me the 3 cup Moka:-)


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Savor the Stick 10:37 PM 12-18-2011
Originally Posted by WyGuy:
My family had celebrated Christmas early this year due to conflicting schedules next week and I was lucky enough to get some new coffee gear.

First cup out of the Mokapot turned out pretty good thanks to all the enough in this thread!

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:-):-):-) You got a great gift! Congrats!
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whodeeni 05:42 AM 12-24-2011
I bought a cheap 3 cup moka pot when i was out in a dept
store one day. (i.e. Ross) I never fired it up, so i don't know
if it was a good deal or a waste of money. I'll have to pull it out
take a pic, and let you guys chime in on it!
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Mister Moo 08:04 AM 12-24-2011
Originally Posted by whodeeni:
I bought a cheap 3 cup moka pot when i was out in a dept
store one day. (i.e. Ross) I never fired it up, so i don't know
if it was a good deal or a waste of money. I'll have to pull it out
take a pic, and let you guys chime in on it!
The cup you drink will tell all, who'ni.
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688sonarmen 09:34 AM 12-25-2011
Received a 3 cupper Bialetti for Christmas. I have a few questions, first is the rubber o ring needed? I brewed 2 pots with it and it did not melt so I assume it is fine, I just ask since I have not seen it mentioned. 2nd until I get a burr grinder I am using some lavazza espresso grind that was so so but had a pretty sour note to it. I also took apart a few of my K-cups and used that as well since the grind seemed right, but that was WAY sour. Based on the sour taste should I turn up or down the heat?
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whodeeni 10:44 AM 12-25-2011
About a week ago i destroyed my french press trying to get the last bit of tea out of some wet leave in the bottom. I made breakfast, and wanted some coffee so I found my Moka Pot. (It's a Primula Espresso 3cup Aluminum Pot)

I washed it out in Hot water, and Ground up Some Beans and i'm about to give it a go. I'm going to find Mr. Moo's instructions and let 'er rip! I'm assuming that the first pot is for "seasoning purposes" because the box said not to drink it!:-)
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Mister Moo 12:24 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by 688sonarmen:
Received a 3 cupper Bialetti for Christmas. I have a few questions, first is the rubber o ring needed? I brewed 2 pots with it and it did not melt so I assume it is fine, I just ask since I have not seen it mentioned. 2nd until I get a burr grinder I am using some lavazza espresso grind that was so so but had a pretty sour note to it. I also took apart a few of my K-cups and used that as well since the grind seemed right, but that was WAY sour. Based on the sour taste should I turn up or down the heat?
Flat rubber gasket at base of filter? I can't imagine how the pot could pressurize without it.

I heat up the pot as fast as possible (for convenience) and, when I hear the rumble (or see the first spit of coffee or steam out the post) then drop the flame (or lift the pot away from the element on an electric stove) to slow it down and produce a slow trickle of coffee - 45-seconds worth for a 2-3 cupper, approx.

Burnt or bitter taste is usually too much heat. Slow down.

Sour taste is usually underextraction - too fast a brew and/or not enough coffee in the filter. Also, stop the brew to avoid the extraction running pale or clear. That last clear bit doesn't help.

Merry Christmas, coffee nutjobs. :-)
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whodeeni 01:05 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by Mister Moo:
The cup you drink will tell all, who'ni.
The coffee came out alright if I say so myself Dan! I used a traditional Blade
grinder, but i took a little extra time mixing the grinds to get them as fine as
possible. I will be on the hunt for a "burr" grinder as this will now become my
primary way of making coffee until I buy another french press. (Which will have to be soon because that is how I make my tea!)

One observation though. The "yield" was only about a 3rd of a cup! So it was
definitely espresso that I was drinking. Do you let the pot cool down, and cook
another pot if you want a bigger cup of coffee? (Or should I just buy some espresso cups and saucers and call it a day?)
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Mister Moo 05:49 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by whodeeni:
...The "yield" was only about a 3rd of a cup! So it was
definitely espresso that I was drinking. Do you let the pot cool down, and cook
another pot if you want a bigger cup of coffee? (Or should I just buy some espresso cups and saucers and call it a day?)
I'm thinking I get about 1.5 oz per moka cup or about 4-5 oz from a 3-cupper. While I love the taste, two 3-cup pots is all I can drink because three makes me start to vibrate and levitate. I drink one slow and still end up running the pot under cool water so I can handle it for another; they do stay hot for a long time, don't they? I use a second pot if Mrs. Moo wants in.
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MarkinAZ 08:05 PM 12-25-2011
I must of been good this year, cuz Santa was exceptionally kind and dropped a Bialetti 3 cupper on me:

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I bought a fresh tin of Cafe La Llave to get things going. Have run a test/throw-away batch, and am now just working with getting the right pack in the filter and natural gas flame under this rig. Now, if somebody can just peel me off the ceiling I'll be just fine:-):-)

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Savor the Stick 10:30 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by MarkinCA:
I must of been good this year, cuz Santa was exceptionally kind and dropped a Bialetti 3 cupper on me:

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I bought a fresh tin of Cafe La Llave to get things going. Have run a test/throw-away batch, and am now just working with getting the right pack in the filter and natural gas flame under this rig. Now, if somebody can just peel me off the ceiling I'll be just fine:-):-)
Yep! Sure does look like you been a good boy this year.

:-):-) Kinda late for coffee though wouldn't ya say?

What kind of grinder you using Mark?....and Congrats!

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MarkinAZ 10:36 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by Savor the Stick;1512840[B:
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:-):-) Kinda late for coffee though wouldn't ya say?

What kind of grinder you using Mark?....and Congrats!
Hey, never too late to sip on some coffee:-)

I have a Mr. Coffee grinder that grinds coarse to fine and in 4cup to 12 cup mode. The Cafe La Llave comes pre-ground and is a fine grind...


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Savor the Stick 10:53 PM 12-25-2011
Originally Posted by MarkinCA:
Hey, never too late to sip on some coffee:-)

I have a Mr. Coffee grinder that grinds coarse to fine and in 4cup to 12 cup mode. The Cafe La Llave comes pre-ground and is a fine grind...


You temp me....but no. Well again congrats I am sure the 2 of you will be very happy together.:-)

I can recommend the Cappresso Infinity Conical Burr grinder as a great product, If you NEVER want to go further then the Mokapot.

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Chainsaw13 02:02 PM 01-03-2012
Has anyone weighed out how much coffee they end up putting in their Moka pot? I just got the three cupper in the mail and ran two throw away batches through it. I had weighed out 30g of beans and ran them through the grinder on the finest setting. That gave me almost enough for the two pots, the second being a bit thin compared to the first. So I'm thinking about 17g per pot would be about right. Just wanted to see if I'm on the right track.
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Savor the Stick 02:29 PM 01-03-2012
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Has anyone weighed out how much coffee they end up putting in their Moka pot? I just got the three cupper in the mail and ran two throw away batches through it. I had weighed out 30g of beans and ran them through the grinder on the finest setting. That gave me almost enough for the two pots, the second being a bit thin compared to the first. So I'm thinking about 17g per pot would be about right. Just wanted to see if I'm on the right track.
No I have never taken the time to measure the amounts. I just fill till the basket is slightly mounded, screw on the top and brew. I don't think I have anything that will measure to that extent.
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MarkinAZ 08:25 PM 01-03-2012
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Has anyone weighed out how much coffee they end up putting in their Moka pot?
Hello Bob, I have the Bialetti 3-cupper Moka Pot myself. I generally place a heaping tsp in the filter and tap the side to settle the grounds. I repeat this with a second heaping tsp and tap the side. I place a third tsp on top (that is slightly rounded), tap, and clean off the edge of the filter.

The filter is now full of grounds and is slightly rounded on top. I've emptied the filter on a couple of occasions and I get approximately 21 grams.

I've been using Cafe La Llave (340g) and Cafe Bustelo (282g) at this time. This gives me approximately 16 (La Llave) and 13.5 (Bustelo) servings per can.

I have an 8oz "Flames Coffee Shop & Bakery" coffee cup, and the 3 cupper will fill this cup a solid 1/3 full (at least):-)

* Maybe Dan (Mr. Moo) can add a little more info here...


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Chainsaw13 08:48 PM 01-03-2012
Thanks for the input guys. I've only been measuring out my beans cause thats all I'll grind at a time. Plus it helps me with consistency. I'll give your method a try tomorrow Mark.
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MarkinAZ 08:57 PM 01-03-2012
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
I'll give your method a try tomorrow Mark.
:-)...Not tonight?:-)


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ApexAZ 10:31 PM 01-03-2012
Is there any concern of toxicity from the aluminum of a moka pot?
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Mister Moo 10:08 AM 01-04-2012
Originally Posted by ApexAZ:
Is there any concern of toxicity from the aluminum of a moka pot?
About the same as smoking pipes and cigars, mebbee. :-)

Don't scour but once. Thereafter, only rinse the lower and rinse and dry-wipe out the upper.
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