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Jefft72 09:20 AM 10-21-2011
Saw it this morning. I am checking it out now.

http://www.prlog.org/11703241-cigar-...r-smokers.html
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themoneycollector 02:11 PM 10-21-2011
So this beta is just for testing right? Not really a purchase?

I will play for fun, but I don't like the format of these auctions. It's a sucker bet if you ask me.
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chaase321 02:13 PM 10-21-2011
Yeah it is just for testing...you won't be obligated to purchase (at least that is my understanding, which seems pretty accurate to the way it was explained).

Also, I have already had bugs with it where it keeps logging me out and asking me to sign up again. It became a pain so I stopped for a while...probably get back on tonight to try some more.
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weak_link 02:55 PM 10-21-2011
Looks like the beezid model?
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kelmac07 02:56 PM 10-21-2011
Looked at it earlier...could not get past the "bullet sounds" as it annoyed me to no end.
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big a 03:01 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by kelmac07:
Looked at it earlier...could not get past the "bullet sounds" as it annoyed me to no end.
+1 on that, than i saw where you could turn them off. My wallet does not need any other sites to beat it up so I'll be staying away from this one for now.
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deadrise 03:45 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by kelmac07:
Looked at it earlier...could not get past the "bullet sounds" as it annoyed me to no end.
+2 the pop up was there and I could not turn off the sounds and watch the video so I said f it I will wait to see how it is later maybe
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themoneycollector 05:06 PM 10-21-2011
I don't see there being any "deals"

There was a box of VSG's that I wasted all 250 bids on. Of course it's a beta so everyone was just clicking, but I started to think about it.

When I finished my 250 bids, it was at $13.xx.

At 60cents per bid, FSS has made 1300*.06 = $780 in bids + what the box actually sells for. As a non-winning bidder, I spent 250*.6 = $150 to not get anything.

In the end, there's 1 happy person and tons and tons of unhappy people. In this case there's over 1299 unhappy people.

Morally, these penny auctions should be illegal. I feel sorry for the CS reps who are going to be getting complaints after spending bits here and there and never having anything to show for it.
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sevans105 05:11 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by themoneycollector:
I don't see there being any "deals"

There was a box of VSG's that I wasted all 250 bids on. Of course it's a beta so everyone was just clicking, but I started to think about it.

When I finished my 250 bids, it was at $13.xx.

At 60cents per bid, FSS has made 1300*.06 = $780 in bids + what the box actually sells for. As a non-winning bidder, I spent 250*.6 = $150 to not get anything.

In the end, there's 1 happy person and tons and tons of unhappy people. In this case there's over 1299 unhappy people.

Morally, these penny auctions should be illegal. I feel sorry for the CS reps who are going to be getting complaints after spending bits here and there and never having anything to show for it.

Yeah, penny auctions are HUGELY profitable. Especially the other ones...they usually don't even have the actual merch. They just drop ship to the "winner". You'll often see iPads going for $100 which means that the company recieved $6000 for the bids, plus the $100 winning bid. $6100 for a $600 iPad is a VERY hefty profit margin.
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Bageland2000 05:18 PM 10-21-2011
+1 for these types of sites being illegal... Hopefully it's only a matter of time. They're TOTAL scams. Pure and simple scams.
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sevans105 05:22 PM 10-21-2011
You need to consider the "penny auctions" to be a gambling site...which it is. Similar to slot machines. Do I play slots/poker/blackjack? Yes I do. Do I do it expecting to win anything? NO. If you view it as entertainment that may pay out, then its fine. If you view it as a way to actually buy something, you will always lose.
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Bill86 05:28 PM 10-21-2011
I don't know how they got my email but I received an email from this place. I just tossed it in the trash.

By the way, the concept of this sucks.
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d'am 06:16 PM 10-21-2011
Beezid gets hammered by computer programs trying to bid in the last few milliseconds before an auction closes. Beezid claims that they try to find and ban these users, but a clever programmer could make it very tough for them. And it's actually in the auction house's interest to let people game the system like this, as long as they can find suckers to continue to place meaningless bids.

So I'd be real careful before buying any cigarsniper bids. The "open beta" weekend provides a testing ground for anyone who wants to cheat, so you could very well be competing against computer programs when the site goes live.
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cmitch 07:15 PM 10-21-2011
Definitely a scam. 1.00 in bids is 100 bids = 60.00. so, if an item is up to 10.00, that's $600 they made!
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hotreds 07:23 PM 10-21-2011
Yup, I joined one of thyese penny sites and spent $100 until light dawned on Mr. Fog just what a rip-off it really was. Now I keep getting emails telling me how much they miss me and offering 20 free bids. Yup, I'm sure they do miss me, but not too much as PT Barnum knows.
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CigarSquid 07:29 PM 10-21-2011
Originally Posted by kelmac07:
Looked at it earlier...could not get past the "bullet sounds" as it annoyed me to no end.
+3
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andromalius 05:11 AM 10-22-2011
Originally Posted by Bill86:
I don't know how they got my email but I received an email from this place. I just tossed it in the trash.
+1

I'm not sure what cigar website sold my email address to these people, but I wasn't too happy about it, and deleted the message.
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Eleven 08:34 AM 10-22-2011
It's good to see that so many people have seen these sites for what they are. You know there are still plenty of people who will funnel their money to them though.
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maninblack 08:58 AM 10-22-2011
What a joke this is. And people fall for this scam. Sad.
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quantim0 09:08 AM 10-22-2011
Capitalism at its finest I say.

If you put 30 sec of thought into it you realize what a waste of money it is, if you don't "a fool and his money are soon parted"
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