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Jokes>How many Michael Jackson jokes have you heard?
dentonparrots 03:59 PM 06-27-2009
Since the guy died I've heard LOADS of jokes about his death. I expected a flood of them within hours of hearing of his demise but not THIS many :-):-)
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Starscream 05:57 PM 06-27-2009
Originally Posted by dentonparrots:
Since the guy died I've heard LOADS of jokes about his death. I expected a flood of them within hours of hearing of his demise but not THIS many :-):-)
I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste. Wait a week or so at least. Give the family and fans some time to mourn.
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Scottw 08:09 PM 06-27-2009
PM me some, I only have 6 or 7/
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shilala 08:37 PM 06-27-2009
I only got 4 or 5 on my cellfone so far.
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Wolfgang 08:41 PM 06-27-2009
Way Too soon. :-)
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TonySmith 08:46 PM 06-27-2009
When asked what the pain was like, he said like a 10 year old boy jumping on his chest
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Martin 09:08 PM 06-27-2009
"Due to the fact that Michael Jackson was 99% plastic, he will be melted down into lego blocks so little boys can play with him for a change"
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kelmac07 09:40 PM 06-27-2009
Too many too soon!!
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MajorCaptSilly 09:46 PM 06-27-2009
I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS
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Starscream 10:09 PM 06-27-2009
Originally Posted by Wolfgang:
Way Too soon. :-)
:-)
Originally Posted by kelmac07:
Too many too soon!!
:-)
Originally Posted by MajorCaptSilly:
I have heard none. Most people I know are adults.

MCS
I wish I could say :-) . I've heard way too many at this point in time.
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RichardW 10:30 PM 06-27-2009
Originally Posted by andysutherland:
I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste. Wait a week or so at least. Give the family and fans some time to mourn.
:-)
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Wolfgang 11:01 PM 06-27-2009
Maybe he was a misguided in his later years, however one action shouldn't discredit an entire career. Michael cannot ever be replaced. Whether you disliked him or loved him he has influenced a whole generation of music and dance.
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dentonparrots 05:21 AM 06-28-2009
Turns out he didn't die of a heart attack, he was found on the childrens ward having a stroke!
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DougBushBC 05:38 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by andysutherland:
I've heard a whole lot. I think that at this point, the MJ jokes are in poor taste.
To be completely honest, I normally would agree with the poor taste, but there are a few things that I find completely and utterly unforgivable, and Child Molestation is one of them. There is no excuse, even psycological problems, for that.

If you believe that he never did those things (heard a few people say this), then you are absolutely living pie in the sky with your rose colored glasses, paying a family $20 million may not convict him but it proves that the MANY claims were true.
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AD720 07:51 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by DougBushBC:
To be completely honest, I normally would agree with the poor taste, but there are a few things that I find completely and utterly unforgivable, and Child Molestation is one of them. There is no excuse, even psycological problems, for that.

If you believe that he never did those things (heard a few people say this), then you are absolutely living pie in the sky with your rose colored glasses, paying a family $20 million may not convict him but it proves that the MANY claims were true.

So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.
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shilala 09:32 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by AD720:
So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.


But I'm not trying to convince you, you've made up your mind. As have I until the time if/when more evidence comes to light. Go ahead and believe what you want but don't tell people that they are naive just because they disagree with your assessment of the situation.
I'm with you, and I read very closely through the years.
What I got out of the whole deal is that he definately molested many children, but thought it was okay because he thinks he's a kid and it's natural for kids to "explore".
It all adds up. Right up to the end.
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AD720 09:37 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
I'm with you, and I read very closely through the years.
What I got out of the whole deal is that he definately molested many children, but thought it was okay because he thinks he's a kid and it's natural for kids to "explore".
It all adds up. Right up to the end.
That's actually not what I was saying at all. If you are are saying that he molested children but thought it was OK then you are most definitely not with me.

My point was not to start a debate on what happened but to make the point (to the member that I responded to) that it is possible for someone to believe what they want about this situation and not only not be naive but quite possibly be well informed.
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shilala 09:48 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by AD720:
That's actually not what I was saying at all. If you are are saying that he molested children but thought it was OK then you are most definitely not with me.

My point was not to start a debate on what happened but to make the point (to the member that I responded to) that it is possible for someone to believe what they want about this situation and not only not be naive but quite possibly be well informed.
I think the second part is what I was agreeing with. :-)
I don't think he ever molested children in the definative (legal) sense of the word, or maybe he did.
I do believe he did things he shouldn't have on many levels, on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.
In any event, I'm not his judge. I think he was a tortured soul, and he's far better off now.
So far as the jokes go, he went out of his way to make sure he earned them. Most guys just have a swingset in the back yard for the kids, ya know?
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AD720 09:51 AM 06-28-2009
Originally Posted by shilala:
I think the second part is what I was agreeing with. :-)
Roger that. :-)

Originally Posted by shilala:
I don't think he ever molested children in the definative (legal) sense of the word, or maybe he did.
I do believe he did things he shouldn't have on many levels, on hundreds if not thousands of occasions.
In any event, I'm not his judge. I think he was a tortured soul, and he's far better off now.
So far as the jokes go, he went out of his way to make sure he earned them. Most guys just have a swingset in the back yard for the kids, ya know?
:-) That's the destination I was taking a very round about route to.
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Scottw 10:00 AM 06-28-2009
[quote=AD720;443395]So you know that to be true? For a fact?

In 1993: no criminal charges filed - lack of strong enough evidence
In 2005: found not guilty on all charges in a jury trial

Have you read anything about the accusations in 1993? About the family and their alleged motives? How about the 2005 People v Jackson case? About the contradictory testimony given by the alleged victims?

Settling out of court proves nothing but an attempt at avoiding a long drawn out trial in which much more money would have been spent in lawyers fees. I'm inclined to believe that if the alleged molestation occurred the family would simply not be satisfied with a monetary settlement and would not rest until justice was served.

$23,000,000 is a pretty hefty "avoidance fee" if you ask me.
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