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HK3- 05:42 AM 02-14-2016
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
That's beautiful Hal.

My new Savage 20ga should be here Tuesday. :-)
Which one did you get Bob?

Originally Posted by Remo:
Like a Cartel boss, Hal :-)
Lol

Originally Posted by bonjing:
That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?
It's a Kimber sapphire in 9mm
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Chainsaw13 06:48 AM 02-14-2016
Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.
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Chainsaw13 06:48 AM 02-14-2016
Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.
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HK3- 08:18 AM 02-14-2016
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Savage 220, 20ga bolt action slug gun. I'm going to be hunting in a shotgun zone this year, with the potential of 150-200 yard shots. Everything I've read says the Savage is up to the task.
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Also found a great deal on gunbroker for a Leupold Ultimateslam scope for it.
Very cool! I didn't hunt here in Michigan this past deer season but Im learning that you can hunt with a rifle but it has to be in a pistol caliber??? Guessing this is to prevent stray long traveling projectiles.

Slug guns are pretty wicked. I've always lived somewhere where we could use rifles or buckshot so I've never owned a real slug gun. I've used the old sabots or pumpkin balls a long time ago but I recall them being not very accurate compared to a rifled slug barrel.
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Chainsaw13 05:35 PM 02-14-2016
Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :-)

The line for gun sales was crazy.
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Flynnster 06:08 PM 02-14-2016
If any of yall are bass fishers, the Bass Pro sale going on right now is actually pretty great. I'm more of an online shopper but they had some great deals. Stocked up on Zoom plastics at 25% off, tons of hardbaits on markdown, and some great sales plus rebates on line.
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HK3- 06:24 AM 02-16-2016
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Yea, you can use any straight walled cartridge as long as it's 1.8 in case length or less. At least that's what I've been told.

Researching the Savage, lots of guys in MI have them and love it. Was at Cabela's today and got a couple different boxes of Hornady's for it. Wanted Remington Accutip, but no 20ga on the shelves. :-)

The line for gun sales was crazy.
Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?
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Chainsaw13 07:46 AM 02-16-2016
Originally Posted by HK3-:
Cool. I will look at my local shop for your Remington Accutip in 20ga, Correct?
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.
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dijit 04:19 PM 02-16-2016
Originally Posted by bonjing:
That's nice, Hal! What do you have behind that Colt?
It looks like a Kimber
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Remo 04:49 PM 02-16-2016


Cleaned my rifle up today
:-)
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Chainsaw13 05:21 PM 02-16-2016
Got my shotgun today. Time to mount the scope then bore site it.
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Remo 05:34 PM 02-16-2016
Nice one Bob :-)
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matt0278 05:56 PM 02-16-2016
Originally Posted by Remo:
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Cleaned my rifle up today :-)
Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.
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Remo 05:59 PM 02-16-2016
Originally Posted by matt0278:
Mike, have you had any problem with your EOTECH holding zero? They downed all of ours after the lawsuit. Looks like we're going with aimpoint for now. Mine nave gave me any issues, but they were concerned about liability. I've beat the hell out of it for years and it held zero like a champ.
No issues with mine, i'll see this spring when I get back on the range, but I don't expect any issues.
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HK3- 11:56 AM 02-17-2016
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.
Stopped off at the same place and it was the same price as yours. I will check some of the other smaller shops around or see if my Wally World has it for any less than $16.
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Blueface 12:53 PM 02-20-2016
Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

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HK3- 04:14 AM 02-23-2016
Originally Posted by Chainsaw13:
Yup. Its not cheap. i found some at Dunhams yesterday. $16 a box/5. But then Dunham's not the cheapest when it comes to ammo.
Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.
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Chainsaw13 06:27 AM 02-23-2016
Originally Posted by HK3-:
Found it at Meijer for $12.99 Bob. Not great but definitely better.
I'll be on the look out. I was going to check Wallyworld, but I just can't force myself to go into that store more than once a month. And i was just there.
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TNT009 10:06 AM 02-24-2016
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Saw this the other day and thought it was quite interesting.
Glad I have that Glock 21 as my go to bedroom/home defense weapon of choice.

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So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.
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nutcracker 12:56 PM 02-24-2016
Originally Posted by TNT009:
So many variables with that... I've seen .45s bounce off skull and guy lived, but a .22 pierce the skull and scramble the brain. I know my wife couldn't handle the .45, but rocks the 9.
Wound ballistics is actually quite complex - the injury is a factor of the kinetic energy imparted - which in turn in determined as follows:

mass x velocity (squared) at entry - mass x velocity (squared) at exit.

Hence a relatively small round from a high velocity rifle is devastating. In an operational area I treated deceptively small wounds from AK47 rounds that had caused devastating injuries. (There are of course 50 cal rounds that would pretty much take your head off.) Military rounds often don't have much "yaw" and "tumble", but a lower velocity round can be manipulated to do all kinds of gyrations based on bullet design. A 9mm can do a whole lot of hurt.

Obviously where you strike your intended victim is also important, and I'm sure you LE guys could advise us, but the percentage shot in my book is two in the torso. I'm far less likely to miss!

In a "domestic setting" with a handgun,- I guess you want to stop someone cold - so I suppose the biggest you can handle would be my rule of thumb.

Personally I think a nice semi auto shotgun would settle most disputes.
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