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shilala 10:13 AM 07-21-2011
Well done, my man. I knew you'd do it. :-)
You're gonna pass me up. Slow down a little, will ya?
How bout you catch me at 195 and we'll race to 185? I'll even bet you five bucks to make it interesting. :-)
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Whee 10:15 AM 07-21-2011
Great job!

All us skinny people at Shack this year means we can fit more onto the jetty!:-)

Down almost 50 myself since last year.
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Da Klugs 11:26 AM 07-21-2011
Originally Posted by shilala:
Well done, my man. I knew you'd do it. :-)
You're gonna pass me up. Slow down a little, will ya?
How bout you catch me at 195 and we'll race to 185? I'll even bet you five bucks to make it interesting. :-)
Not gonna happen. 195 is my self imposed lower limit. (ok maybe 190) Thinking it's a "healthy weight" for me. Based upon BMI, Body fat etc, my theoretical low is around 182-185 but that is with a 4% body fat, not sustainable or healthy for the non-athlete, grandfather that I am. :-)
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shilala 11:59 AM 07-21-2011
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
Not gonna happen. 195 is my self imposed lower limit. (ok maybe 190) Thinking it's a "healthy weight" for me. Based upon BMI, Body fat etc, my theoretical low is around 182-185 but that is with a 4% body fat, not sustainable or healthy for the non-athlete, grandfather that I am. :-)
I have no idea what my theoretical low is, I only understood about half the words you said. I was 185 for lots of years before I got fat and I wrestled 165 in 7th grade, so I figured around 175 for an old guy?
How does one figure out what they "should" weigh?
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Da Klugs 12:40 PM 07-21-2011
Originally Posted by shilala:
I have no idea what my theoretical low is, I only understood about half the words you said. I was 185 for lots of years before I got fat and I wrestled 165 in 7th grade, so I figured around 175 for an old guy?
How does one figure out what they "should" weigh?
Remember to add the 10 pounds of undigested red meat in your colon to the numbers. :-)

The Published BMI tools are out there. Most of them are BS as they dont take into account different "body types", muscle mass etc.

I was a swimmer in HS. 185 pounds and you had to look for any fat.. probably in the 8-11%% of body fat range.

College got in the 200 pound range without the "fitness" associated with my prior good habits. Probably moved into the 22-24% range.

Without getting out the calipers or going in for a rigorous test... this is a fairly good tool you can use with just a tape measure to calculate your body fat % which is different than your BMI:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-fat-calculator/

It's not perfect but gives you a sense of things. Says I'm at 17.2 but in reality I'm a little lower than that based upon body type, muscle mass etc.

I tend to agree with this overall view:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/body-f...-fat-chart.php

Feeling pretty fit and losing another 5 lbs put me in the middle of the range so it makes sense based upon my experience. The simple height and weight calculators out there are wacked.

The other sources that use the height weight formula to calculate BMI but tend to want you to be a skeleton before they consider you healthy and it's just not realistic.

It's helpful to find out your BMR (Basic metabolic rate) and then use the Harris Benedict Equation to figure out your basic calorie needs. It's an eye opener but explains why you lose or gain weight based upon activity and calorie consumption.

But... have found that for me, an hour a day of cardio + 1000-1300 calories is the formula for rapid weight loss. Less cardio - less loss, more calories less loss. Have sdjusted the cardio up to this point over the past 110 days and the calories down over that time from 2500 to current levels.
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OLS 01:03 PM 07-21-2011
I know one thing, I only see you once a year, and the last time I saw you was STARK change for the better.
I was muy impressed. Wish I could say I took that as motivation, but I am bigger than ever. Good thing about
the shack though, there's always somebody bigger than me. :-)
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Da Klugs 07:25 AM 07-27-2011
Hallies boyfriends family came to town from NH. Spent 4 days with us at the shack. Ate and drank .... way to much. Came back and the tale of the scale was ugly... 206. Been working on it for a couple days. Back to 202 this morning.

The folks at Zoup must be missing me by now been almost a week. On the good news front my morning push-ups are now one set of 150 vs the break after a 100. Feeling stronger and looking leaner. It's just much harder to lose weight now.

195 is going to be the end point for this. 2 more weeks and then maintenance mode. Whatever that means.
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shilala 09:28 AM 07-27-2011
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
2 more weeks and then maintenance mode. Whatever that means.
That's what I'm waiting to hear about. I have no clue how that part works.
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Texan in Mexico 11:13 AM 07-27-2011
Thanks for sharing - as many have said it is motivating and makes me proud to see your results. What it makes me realize is that I need to up the cardio and push-ups to get down to 240 on my way to 220.
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Hippiebrian 07:35 PM 07-27-2011
Congrats! I've been on a slow weight loss ride since the heart attack a couple years ago. Not quite as good at it as you have been, but have dropped 50 lbs slowly just replacing driving with riding my bike.

Keep it up, man, I see good things!
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SNKBYT 07:18 AM 07-28-2011
congratz Dave, great job.........wish I could walk, but my injuries make to hard to exercise.....but I try to watch what I eat, was 198 when I returned from Afghanistan and went up to a high of 231 now down to 224 and holding

will see the new you in 21 days
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Da Klugs 07:30 AM 07-28-2011
Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico:
Thanks for sharing - as many have said it is motivating and makes me proud to see your results. What it makes me realize is that I need to up the cardio and push-ups to get down to 240 on my way to 220.
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Yup.... and radical reductions in calories. Gotta do it all or it just doesnt work, at least for me.

Originally Posted by Hippiebrian:
Congrats! I've been on a slow weight loss ride since the heart attack a couple years ago. Not quite as good at it as you have been, but have dropped 50 lbs slowly just replacing driving with riding my bike.

Keep it up, man, I see good things!
Good on ya! Slow is much better way to go than the crash progarm I have been on. It's hard and hard on you. My experience with this has led me to lifestyle changes regarding eating and exercise that I hope will stick with me when the drive to lose is finished.

Originally Posted by snkbyt:
congratz Dave, great job.........wish I could walk, but my injuries make to hard to exercise.....but I try to watch what I eat, was 198 when I returned from Afghanistan and went up to a high of 231 now down to 224 and holding

will see the new you in 21 days
There are infinite ways to exercise that can help. Just tightening your butt muscles a few hundred times a day burns significant calories. 12 pound hand weights. Leg lifts, etc. It comes down to choices. If you choose to do what you can to achieve a goal and actually stick with doing those things consistently over a long enough period, it will happen.

Hit it hard last night with the usual routine plus swam with Jane for a half hour. Got back to 200.1 this morning after doing a morning trip on the Airdyne for the first time. Maybe going to 2 a days is what I need to get to the end point of this.
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Da Klugs 06:56 AM 07-29-2011
It's Deja Vu all over again. 199.9 this morning after a morning workout. Probably more of a real weight this time vs a week ago when I hit the same number. Ate well last night so its not a stretch like last week was.

Definitely much harder to move lower from here than it has been. Keep hitting plateaus that are tough, tough tough to break through. Hoping it was just my zeal last week to push to a number now reflected in a more normal weight.

Yesterday started doing the cardio in the morning as well as at night. Almost 2 hours a day. Going to try this for the last couple of weeks of my journey of weight loss to see where I can end up. Still think 195 or a bit lower is attainable just not sure it's a weight I can stay at given what it takes to get and stay there.
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Whee 10:13 AM 07-29-2011
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
It's Deja Vu all over again. 199.9 this morning after a morning workout. Probably more of a real weight this time vs a week ago when I hit the same number. Ate well last night so its not a stretch like last week was.

Definitely much harder to move lower from here than it has been. Keep hitting plateaus that are tough, tough tough to break through. Hoping it was just my zeal last week to push to a number now reflected in a more normal weight.

Yesterday started doing the cardio in the morning as well as at night. Almost 2 hours a day. Going to try this for the last couple of weeks of my journey of weight loss to see where I can end up. Still think 195 or a bit lower is attainable just not sure it's a weight I can stay at given what it takes to get and stay there.
:-)

I've been stuck in the 195 area for about 6 weeks now. Keep pushing!
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shilala 11:50 AM 07-29-2011
Originally Posted by Da Klugs:
It's Deja Vu all over again. 199.9 this morning after a morning workout. Probably more of a real weight this time vs a week ago when I hit the same number. Ate well last night so its not a stretch like last week was.

Definitely much harder to move lower from here than it has been. Keep hitting plateaus that are tough, tough tough to break through. Hoping it was just my zeal last week to push to a number now reflected in a more normal weight.

Yesterday started doing the cardio in the morning as well as at night. Almost 2 hours a day. Going to try this for the last couple of weeks of my journey of weight loss to see where I can end up. Still think 195 or a bit lower is attainable just not sure it's a weight I can stay at given what it takes to get and stay there.
Just keep doing healthy stuff, Pap. I've stalled around 193, it seems. I hit it before much like you explained your brush with 199.9. I went back up to around 198 and came down slowly to this again, without effort.
I think you're taller than me, so we both might have hit rock bottom for our ages. I hope not, I'd like to get rid of the rest of this gut first. :-)
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Da Klugs 12:00 PM 07-29-2011
Jumped on the scale post... err um expulsion, pre lunch 198. :-)

Looked over the stats and realized I have been trying to push the numbers.

Weight loss by month:

April - 20
May - 10
June -15
July - 17 so far. (been trying for 20 by Aug 5th.)

Need to stop obsessing about this. Unfortunately I am who I am. :-)
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icehog3 01:15 PM 07-29-2011
I assume you plan to keep up with the cardio work even after your final goal is met, Dave? Good for the heart, ya know. :-)
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Da Klugs 01:17 PM 07-29-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
I assume you plan to keep up with the cardio work even after your final goal is met, Dave? Good for the heart, ya know. :-)
I hope so. Been hitting things lately at a level that 4 months ago would have killed me. Need to find a calorie and exercise balance that is sustainable... but not just yet. :-)
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Da Klugs 10:38 AM 08-01-2011
Friday worked out before leaving for the lake. 197.8 after workout the new low point. Walked the island 2x on sat and sunday morning. Came home last night dreading the scale. After working out... 199.5. This morning post AM ride... 198.5. This is the lowest I have started out a week at. Feeling pretty confident that 195 is within reach by Friday with the "2 a days" and avoiding the strawberry and peach sundaes I ate over the weekend. Friday marks 4 months of this crazy weight loss process. need to decide if that ends the manic "loss" program or if there is room and/or inclination to go lower.

I don't feel thin. Feeling fitter but not necessarily thinner. Does weight loss turun you into a 16 year old girl? :-)
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icehog3 10:41 AM 08-01-2011
Just by the look of your face in the most recent pick it is obvious you are thinner, Dave.

I can't comment on 16 year old girls in any fashion per my probation officer. :-)
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