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T.G 07:12 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by iaMkcK:
And here we are:

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Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webf...s/show/id/2860
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iaMkcK 07:16 PM 11-14-2012
I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.
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Porch Dweller 07:23 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by iaMkcK:
I hear you Rico; personally: I don't buy Cohiba's either.

They are probably amazing smokes, but sadly I'll never know unless I wind up getting one in a sampler or something to that effect. My local B&M's start them off at $20, and for that price I can get 2 very decent cigars -- Hell I believe they have a Padron Anny around the same price range.

I'd love to try a Cohiba -- The only one I've smoked was a fake, and I knew it was a fake, but I took one for the team so I knew what fakes tasted like.
I've had a handful of CC Cohibas and they were amongst the best things I've ever smoked. I've had about 15 NC Cohibas and while good, IMO they're overpriced. I've smoked much better cigars at half the cost. IMO the price of the NCs is in a large part based off of the name on the band.
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Robulous78 07:30 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by Porch Dweller:
I've had a handful of CC Cohibas and they were amongst the best things I've ever smoked. I've had about 15 NC Cohibas and while good, IMO they're overpriced. I've smoked much better cigars at half the cost. IMO the price of the NCs is in a large part based off of the name on the band.
Being as I have never had the real deal... can anyone speak as to weather they are better then the HdM CC's? I like the NC Cohiba's but I LOVE HC HdM's... So I was thinking about trying to make a CC HdM my first CC... but everyone talks about the CC Cohiba so I have no idea as to which I should be hunting for...

Thoughts?
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icehog3 08:09 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
can anyone speak as to weather they are better then the HdM CC's? I like the NC Cohiba's but I LOVE HC HdM's... So I was thinking about trying to make a CC HdM my first CC... but everyone talks about the CC Cohiba so I have no idea as to which I should be hunting for...

Thoughts?
No one can with certainty, because it is all a matter of personal taste.

I don't care for HdMs at all, with the exception of the "du" lines.

I like Cohibas a lot.

Does that mean Cohibas are better than HdMs?

Maybe for me, but not for everyone else. :-)
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pnoon 09:09 PM 11-14-2012
To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.
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Robulous78 09:14 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by pnoon:
To be clear, there is no correlation, association, or similarity between NCs and CCs of the same name.
So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?
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Robulous78 09:21 PM 11-14-2012
If what I have gathered from my reading is correct... CC's have a unique taste/flavor you only get from CC's... I thought this was just an addition to the NC counterparts flavor profile...

I wish I could be more specific, but I have no experience with CC's so I don't even know if this is true... Guess I need to make some Canadian friends... LoL
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pnoon 09:26 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?
Absolutely not.
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T.G 09:56 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by iaMkcK:
I had thought that as well, but the bands that I saw that were from that lawsuit, did not resemble the one I had. And the fact that it was a green cigar sends up even more red flags. Maybe they took the bands and put them on some candelas. Either way, I'll concede -- I stand corrected.

EDIT :: Interesting that a cigar from 6 years ago is floating around up here.
There actually is/was a 4th Cohiba, made by Monti Cristi, something about only being sold on the island, I don't know for certain if they are still being produced, but I believe they were still in production about 4-5 years ago.

Some of those have been known to sneak off the island.

Maybe I have the band assignments backwards. :-)
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AlohaStyle 11:14 PM 11-14-2012
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
So you cannot judge which CC you will like by their NC counterpart?
To add to the other answers... the Cuban brand and NC brand have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Totally separate companies/blends/marketing etc. Nothing. The NC name is a blatant copy of the cuban name/image here in the US.

And to think a CC Cohiba Robusto is too expensive... they are cheaper than a lot of high-end Nicaraguan and Dominicans. Do you buy the Tatuaje Monster cigars? They are more expensive than I pay for Cohiba Robustos.
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JJKJR 06:33 AM 11-15-2012
I got these same cigars as a gift from my wife who was in Haiti. She bought them from a roadside vender being told and believing they were CC's. Just as everyone else stated they were very poorly constructed and 2 of the ten pack had beetle holes in them. I did the freezer kill on the remaining 8. I didn't especially like the cigars. I can't say they were the worse I ever smoked but they were far from the best. I wouldn't consider getting these again. I remember reading somewhere on this site that the true NC's band has the "O" in Cohiba colored red.
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Sonic04GT 10:06 AM 11-15-2012
Originally Posted by iaMkcK:
I'm sure he meant it offhandedly, and not honestly meaning 1/100 are real.. But I can't speak for the man.. It's up to him to say what he actually meant.
That's what I got out of it. I've noticed many folks around here take things very literally and seriously.
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Sonic04GT 10:11 AM 11-15-2012
Originally Posted by T.G:
Yup, that's the lawsuit band.

Not fake. Just a different manufacturer.

More info here:
http://www.afficionadocigar.com/webf...s/show/id/2860
"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:-):-)
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pnoon 10:15 AM 11-15-2012
Originally Posted by Sonic04GT:
"In addition to admitting infringement, the defendants agreed to turn over approximately 10,000 yellow band Cohiba cigars to General for destruction."

:-):-)
It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. :-)
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Robulous78 01:15 PM 11-15-2012
Originally Posted by pnoon:
It was only 137 bands.

You take things very literally and seriously. :-)
:-)
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bigunit66 05:31 PM 11-17-2012
I trust more online vendors than B&M's in any third world country.
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havanabound 06:24 PM 11-17-2012
Damn it!

My buddy who goes to cuba, keeps bringing back discounted boxes of cohibas that he gets from someone he "trusts". These cigars in the most legitimate looking box, sealed with government seal and all (box of 25) all have the 4 dots above the cohiba name.

My other friends that went to an actual government store and bought them full price and legitimately, those all had 3 dots. And I've smoked them all. Now I'm left with about 20 of the fake ones. I must say though, they're still pretty damn fine smokes, even though they're probably knock offs.

The one I just received from switzerland has 3 dots.
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aj_chicago 12:26 PM 07-18-2013
All I can say is I sure do miss the "fake" yellow band Cohibas. I like mild and I think they were a great bang for the buck and thoroughly enjoyed them. Does anyone know what brand/name they were replaced with after General Cigars won the law suit with the "non-Cuban" (3rd) Cohiba company?
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Sweet_Leaf_PDX 01:04 PM 07-18-2013
I was recently in the Dominican Republic and saw tons of these fake Cohibas for sale. At the only legitimate cigar store I found there, legit Cohibas were very expensive. I ended up buying a Paratags, Punch and RyJ CC and found them all to be excellent smokes.

To the point of not being able to judge a CC by it's NC counterpart - RyJ are not normally my thing, but I loved the CC version.

Hypothesis: Your odds of getting a legit CC are better, assuming you don't 100% trust the source, if you go with a brand other than Cohiba?
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