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T.G 04:41 PM 01-19-2011
Over in Stephen's (zappaFREAK) review thread of the Flying Pig, Dave (Dave128) and I ended up talking about some things regarding the rolling of these cigars, and I told Dave I would post some pictures of the procedure, but I wanted to take the discussion over to it's own thread as not to completely jack Steve's thread, so, here we go...

First off, I'd like to apologize for the quality of some of the photos - there were a number of us crammed into a very tiny walkway between benches and each of us was trying to simultaneously listen to Jonathan, smoke a cigar, not burn the BOTL next to you with your cigar, watch what was going on and take some photos.

Here is the cigar being bunched and the capote (binder) being applied. As you can see, it's really not that different from any other cigar, EXCEPT for the final step before it goes into the mold. As seen in the fourth photo, the bunchero uses a loop hook, something resembling a very thin crochet hook or loop. He will stick the loop about 1/4" into the filler and then yank it back out, which removes a bit of the tobacco leaf. He'll do this in a circular pattern just in from the edge a bit and then a few stabs in the center. He then flips the cigar over and does the head. This allows the cigar to fit into the mold and be pressed with the rounded ends.

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T.G 04:42 PM 01-19-2011
The application of the capa (wrapper) isn't really that different from any other figurado except for the extra wraps at the foot and the tail, which the rollera can be seen creating here.

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loki 04:42 PM 01-19-2011
nice pics, just wish i enjoyed the cigars more
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Pat1075 04:44 PM 01-19-2011
very interesting stuff there. thank you for the pictures
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longknocker 04:48 PM 01-19-2011
Nice Pics & Story, Adam!:-) Thanks!:-)
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Zeuceone 04:50 PM 01-19-2011
Nicely done.
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jesseboston81 04:51 PM 01-19-2011
Excellent pictures! I really enjoy seeing gifted rollers performing their craft.
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jitzy 04:52 PM 01-19-2011
Very cool pics thanks for posting
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Kreth 04:56 PM 01-19-2011
Cool pics. Thanks for posting them. :-)
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muhren 05:02 PM 01-19-2011
Love the thread and pics! very informative.

I'm curious...Has DE ever posted a video of it being done?

M
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muhren 05:06 PM 01-19-2011
Another question!

I read through the other thread and noticed you said all buncheros were male, all rollers female. Is there a rationale behind the gender bias?

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thebayratt 05:07 PM 01-19-2011
Cool pics!!

You should have yelled "ROLL FASTER!!!" hahaaaa
We need more piggies!!
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T.G 05:27 PM 01-19-2011
Originally Posted by muhren:
Love the thread and pics! very informative.

I'm curious...Has DE ever posted a video of it being done?

M
I don't think they have. I'll shoot Johnny Brooke an email and ask though.




Originally Posted by muhren:
Another question!

I read through the other thread and noticed you said all buncheros were male, all rollers female. Is there a rationale behind the gender bias?

M
Their hands.

Typically speaking, men have larger hands and much greater strength in their hands. Besides being able to hold the entire filler bunch of tobacco for a cigar while simultaneously folding the leaves, there's a lot of compressing of the tobacco that has to happen while rolling it into the capote (binder). They can also easier hold the bunch under compression mid-roll if they need to adjust the capote.

There's really no requirement for hand strength for applying the capa (wrapper) but a delicate touch, good manual dexterity and small fingers to right up to the edge of the cigar and smooth out the capa as it's applied is.
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kelmac07 05:29 PM 01-19-2011
Cool stuff...thanks for sharing. :-)
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cigarlvr 06:00 PM 01-19-2011
Great photos thanks
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wayner123 07:56 PM 01-19-2011
Are those plastic molds?
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hscmit 08:01 PM 01-19-2011
great info
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EricF 08:22 PM 01-19-2011
Great Pics! Thanks for sharing them!
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bscottskangum 08:25 PM 01-19-2011
Great pics, thanks for sharing!
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lyle23 08:35 PM 01-19-2011
Great thread and pix, thanx for sharing.
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