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Starscream 12:05 PM 08-06-2009
Originally Posted by borndead1:
My favorite Gurkha is the His Majesty's Limited Edition Royal Grand Centennial Gold Vintage Triple Ligero Anniversario Reserve Ancient Nepalese Titan Beast Warrior. :-)





I've tried quite a few Gurkhas. The Expedition was a decent smoke, there was another one, I think Grand Reserve, in a Connecticut wrapper that was pretty good, and I smoked through a 5 pack of Centurian perfectos that I thought were pretty good smokes. Didn't like the Doble Maduro, the Royal Brigade, Nepalese Warrior, and there are a couple others I can't remember the names of.

My problem(s) with them are the inconsistent construction and flavor of the cigars, and, quite frankly, the hype. I hate hype. Make a GOOD, CONSISTENT cigar. I don't give a crap about the name on the band. I don't care what the box looks like. And I don't wanna see a ridiculous price tag either. A cigar that retails for $30 a stick? $40 a stick? $750 a stick? Who are you trying to fool? My mama didn't raise no sucka!
I've had one in a Connecticut wrapper. Not bad if you like Connies, but too mild for me. The Doble Maduro and whatever the barber pole one was were awful. They both tasted like dirt (a heavy earthy flavor).



We started this out with PI and Reyes, move on to Rocky Patels, and now Gurkhas. Where did we go wrong?:-)
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EEE 05:31 PM 08-06-2009
Originally Posted by borndead1:
There are very few cigar makers that don't "enhance" their maduro wrappers in some way. I smoked a Padron 80th and my fingers looked like I ran out of toilet paper. Smoked an Anejo that did it too. On the other hand, I've smoked cheapo, pitch black bundle cigars that didn't stain my fingers.

I think it depends on the "dye recipe". :-)

Also, I've found that some cigars will "absorb" some of the dye with time. La Floridita and El Mejor Espresso are 2 examples.

If'n it makes ya feel any better, they don't use shoe polish or anything to color the wrappers.
I've had behind the scenes looks and conversations with more than just the Reyes group and I can tell you this may have been the case 10/15 years ago but not anymore - at least with most manufacturers. Consumers are becoming too educated and expecting better.

I can't speak for ALL manu's but there are fewer and fewer of them that dye their cigars.
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lou2row 09:16 PM 08-07-2009
Well, Andy took me up on my offer. EEE, you have first shot at the other position since you graciously put on round one. If not, Mark or someone else that has followed this thread can step in.

I'm more interested in which cigars you enjoy more than picking the Gurkhas. My biggest issue with gurks is construction. Several have flavors I've enjoyed, but they have fell apart on me more than any other cigar manufacturer. I always believe that in a blind review without any hype, you are more prone to find what you like.

So, who else wants to play?:-)
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Starscream 09:46 PM 08-07-2009
Originally Posted by lou2row:

I'm more interested in which cigars you enjoy more than picking the Gurkhas.
Is this a question for me? What do I like right now?

I'm into strong sticks. I like about anything Nicaraguan at this point. I mellow out with some Padrons and a few CCs that people gift me, but if I'm picking it out, I go for the power and strength. I haven't found much power in Gurkhas yet.
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borndead1 05:08 AM 08-08-2009
CIGAR #10


Robusto with an ugly blemished wrapper. Pre-light draw is grass and hay.

First few draws...



I would guess that this cigar IS a Rolando Reyes cigar.
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lou2row 07:41 AM 08-08-2009
Originally Posted by andysutherland:
Is this a question for me? What do I like right now?

I'm into strong sticks. I like about anything Nicaraguan at this point. I mellow out with some Padrons and a few CCs that people gift me, but if I'm picking it out, I go for the power and strength. I haven't found much power in Gurkhas yet.
I meant what you think of the ten blind sticks versus just "gurkha or not" as an answer, but this will help with a lineup.
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EEE 09:05 AM 08-08-2009
Mark # 10 - hoya de nicaragua

Very interesting.

This was the only cigar that Andy didn't get because he was the one I was actually challenging to the Reyes part of this. I'm wondering if you psyched out and thought you were smoking a Reyes stick and your brain told you what to taste vs what you were actually tasting. Almost like if were given an Opus X with a Mac label.... Would we still think it tasted like an Opus X? This is very interesting.
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EEE 09:09 AM 08-08-2009
Lou - sure, I'm game. I will send over my addy.
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yourchoice 09:29 AM 08-08-2009
Very entertaining thread guys. EEE, WTG offering up like you did. Andy and Mark, nice job on the reviews.
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EEE 09:37 AM 08-08-2009
You have great tastes in your baseball team and that you football and hockey choices follow suit.:-)
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mcmoyer 11:35 AM 08-08-2009
Originally Posted by yourchoice:
Very entertaining thread guys. EEE, WTG offering up like you did. Andy and Mark, nice job on the reviews.
Ditto...you all did a great job of it. Thanks!!

:-)
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yourchoice 01:12 PM 08-08-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
You have great tastes in your baseball team and that you football and hockey choices follow suit.:-)
If you're referring to me, yes indeed. Four sport Philly guy here (yes, I even pull for the Sixers). I also pull for the city schools during the NCAA's.:-)
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Starscream 01:27 PM 08-08-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
Mark # 10 - hoya de nicaragua

Very interesting.

This was the only cigar that Andy didn't get because he was the one I was actually challenging to the Reyes part of this. I'm wondering if you psyched out and thought you were smoking a Reyes stick and your brain told you what to taste vs what you were actually tasting. Almost like if were given an Opus X with a Mac label.... Would we still think it tasted like an Opus X? This is very interesting.
:-)


I love some JdNs, especially the Antano. Maybe you're on to something with the label thing. I beleive I got psyched out on the DPG blue label. Never had any grass or hay from a JdN.
Originally Posted by yourchoice:
If you're referring to me, yes indeed. Four sport Philly guy here (yes, I even pull for the Sixers). I also pull for the city schools during the NCAA's.:-)
Not a Phillies fan here, but I'm damned proud of them for bringing a championship home to the National League. Now if only we could win an All-Star Game.
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EEE 02:10 PM 08-08-2009
I think the next round I do this it will be completely blind and not a single brand name given prior
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Starscream 07:09 PM 08-08-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
I think the next round I do this it will be completely blind and not a single brand name given prior
I think that would be a good idea. I was thinking that every stick I smoked was going to be a PI, therefore I was expecting the worse out of all of them.
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EEE 09:01 PM 08-08-2009
while typing on a blackberry - the English language is ruined. LOL

Next month - two more volunteers for a fiver blinder. Maybe I'll do this every month???
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borndead1 10:12 AM 08-09-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
Mark # 10 - hoya de nicaragua

Very interesting.

This was the only cigar that Andy didn't get because he was the one I was actually challenging to the Reyes part of this. I'm wondering if you psyched out and thought you were smoking a Reyes stick and your brain told you what to taste vs what you were actually tasting. Almost like if were given an Opus X with a Mac label.... Would we still think it tasted like an Opus X? This is very interesting.

Not a big fan of JdN...that might explain it. Smoked a few Celebracions and did not like them at all, smoked a few Antanos that were OK but nothing special. I found that they needed too much humi time for a NC. I guess I coulda been a little bit psyched out though. :-)

My final word on Reyes cigars:

I've smoked a lot of them over the past few years, and they all had a familiar flavor and aroma that I just don't like. Obviously they have fans or they wouldn't have been in business this long. Maybe it's the way they cure or ferment their tobacco, I dunno.

But hey, that's what makes this hobby/obsession of ours so interesting. Different smokes for different folks. It's the same with food. I don't like asparagus. To me, PIs are the equivalent of smoking asparagus. :-)



EEE -- thanks for the challenge, bro. It was an eye-opening experience.
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yourchoice 11:35 AM 08-09-2009
Originally Posted by borndead1:
It's the same with food. I don't like asparagus. To me, PIs are the equivalent of smoking asparagus. :-)
Hmmm, asparagus is my favorite vegatable. wonder how it would smoke? :-) :-)
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lou2row 07:25 PM 08-10-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
I think the next round I do this it will be completely blind and not a single brand name given prior
I'll go with that on this one. No sense having you worry that every cigar is going to be a Gurkha. Plus, most the ones I had several of were going to be dead giveaway figurados! You could have called em before you even lit em. But a couple will be Gurkhas, just not many.

Just printed out labels, they will ship tomorrow morning.

DC#'s
01038555749798980307
01038555749819951828

I will start a new thread for the next round. Hope something hits your taste profile and you find something interesting to try. Almost every cigar is one I keep around and is part of my regular rotation.
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kenstogie 02:49 PM 08-11-2009
Originally Posted by EEE:
I think the next round I do this it will be completely blind and not a single brand name given prior
Yup that the way to do it. Mix em up.. .put some great inexpensive smokes and some great semi-expensive ones in there. Alway fun to watch people's reviews.
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