Resipsa 12:12 PM 01-27-2010
shilala 12:34 PM 01-27-2010
Looking great so far. No mention of phone capability, though. Or swapping out my sim card and using my 3G. If it misses that, it's pretty much a big ipod touch to me. It'd be a bummer. I'd be stuck to wifi. Gack.
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AD720 12:58 PM 01-27-2010
aich75013 01:14 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by AD720:
iMeh. :-)
Hehe. Yeah. So far nothing that makes me want to go out and get one.
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Footbag 01:17 PM 01-27-2010
Just made a new thread on it, then I saw this one. My bad.
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AD720 01:20 PM 01-27-2010
Wow. Starting at only $499. That's a surprise.
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Ahbroody 01:40 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by shilala:
Looking great so far. No mention of phone capability, though. Or swapping out my sim card and using my 3G. If it misses that, it's pretty much a big ipod touch to me. It'd be a bummer. I'd be stuck to wifi. Gack.
Nope no phone service. However there is the google voice work around. Not sure if it will work on Iphone/pad, but the unit has blue tooth so you do have the ability to get a google voice account and use it as a phone that way.
I have never said this before but apple beyond droped the ball on this one. No flash are you focking joking?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/a...om-your-couch/. A device centered around the multimedia experience with no focking browser flash support? Did Apple not look at the Stats at just how much flash content is on the web? At 499 if it had flash support I would have been all over this device. You could have tied it to google voice I bet and had one kick ass MIDI. Voice, movies, flash media. OOOO but wait its tied to ATT network and we know ATT doesnt want flash support on its network because of the strain it would place on the network if available.
It would appear no multi tasking for Ipod either as this unit did not have multi tasking. It amazes me that Palm WebOs has multitasking but apple fails. ? Maybe its comming.
However I believe Vic will possibly be able to use this as he thought about. Because Iwork will be available. So it would appear
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/a...work-for-ipad/
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shilala 03:08 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by Ahbroody:
Nope no phone service. However there is the google voice work around. Not sure if it will work on Iphone/pad, but the unit has blue tooth so you do have the ability to get a google voice account and use it as a phone that way.
I have never said this before but apple beyond droped the ball on this one. No flash are you focking joking? http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/a...om-your-couch/. A device centered around the multimedia experience with no focking browser flash support? Did Apple not look at the Stats at just how much flash content is on the web? At 499 if it had flash support I would have been all over this device. You could have tied it to google voice I bet and had one kick ass MIDI. Voice, movies, flash media. OOOO but wait its tied to ATT network and we know ATT doesnt want flash support on its network because of the strain it would place on the network if available.
It would appear no multi tasking for Ipod either as this unit did not have multi tasking. It amazes me that Palm WebOs has multitasking but apple fails. ? Maybe its comming.
However I believe Vic will possibly be able to use this as he thought about. Because Iwork will be available. So it would appear http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/a...work-for-ipad/
I'm with ya, brother. It's pretty much the maxiPad.
Coupled with logmein, it'd kick ass and I think it'd still be great for Vic at work, but no phone. No multitasking.
I'm clueless. I guess they thought grab some of that Amazon Kindle money? Nice movies?
It's just a big iPod Touch.
I'm sure I'll order the 16gb when they're ready and feel it out and see what I can do with it. If it's as cool as I hope, I'll get the $829 3G version after that and give the 16gb wifi to my daughter.
I don't even have 3G where I live, but I do everywhere I go.
It was a huge letdown for me, too, but I can definately see it as an awesome reader and web tool, and I absolutely hate laptops (always did), so I'm probably in the 1% of people who actually care, even though I'm very let down by the shortcomings.
It'll definately need hacked. No doubt.
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shilala 03:12 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by AD720:
Wow. Starting at only $499. That's a surprise.
I fully expected to lay down $1000. The highest priced model is $829 and tax. I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I thought that was fair. At least as far as Apple prices go.
:-)
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Resipsa 03:55 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by Ahbroody:
Nope no phone service. However there is the google voice work around. Not sure if it will work on Iphone/pad, but the unit has blue tooth so you do have the ability to get a google voice account and use it as a phone that way.
Not being phone capable doesn't really matter I don't think. You're not going to be lugging it around to use for that purpose in any event, my phone is always with me anyway.
I can't think of any reason using google voice on it wouldn't work in any event. Those calls go out as data over the 3g or wifi, and I don't know how anyone would even be able to know or care that you were using either google voice or ribbit (google voice lookalike) to make calls. People have been using Ipod Touches connected to a MiFi to do just this for awhile now without incident.
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shilala 04:01 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by Resipsa:
Not being phone capable doesn't really matter I don't think. You're not going to be lugging it around to use for that purpose in any event, my phone is always with me anyway.
I can't think of any reason using google voice on it wouldn't work in any event. Those calls go out as data over the 3g or wifi, and I don't know how anyone would even be able to know or care that you were using either google voice or ribbit (google voice lookalike) to make calls. People have been using Ipod Touches connected to a MiFi to do just this for awhile now without incident.
You think you'll be able to use this thing, Vic?
Check on back up the thread a bit, too. I left a note for ya.
:-)
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Resipsa 04:08 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by shilala:
You think you'll be able to use this thing, Vic?
Check on back up the thread a bit, too. I left a note for ya. :-)
I think so. It seems like it'll do the work related things I need it to do, but I really want to get a hands on with the onscreen keyboard. If it even comes close to approximating peformance on a regular keyboard and I can draft documents, etc on this thing, it could be a go
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shilala 04:19 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by Resipsa:
I think so. It seems like it'll do the work related things I need it to do, but I really want to get a hands on with the onscreen keyboard. If it even comes close to approximating peformance on a regular keyboard and I can draft documents, etc on this thing, it could be a go:-)
It's got a badass keyboard dock, too, brother.
Here's an accessory link.
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Resipsa 07:01 PM 01-27-2010
I've got a bluetooth keyboard that I use with my PS3 on the man tv, i'll just use it with the ipad
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Resipsa 07:02 PM 01-27-2010
AD720 07:39 PM 01-27-2010
Originally Posted by shilala:
I fully expected to lay down $1000. The highest priced model is $829 and tax. I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I thought that was fair. At least as far as Apple prices go. :-)
Absolutely sincere bro, no sarcasm.
All of the "insiders" were saying $1000. $499 is a great move by Apple.
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Ahbroody 09:16 PM 01-27-2010
Great article Vic. I guess flash wont be comming anytime soon. Or will it?......
I cant really agree with the authors point of view. To me it is written from a fanboys perspective. He seems to ignore the fact that apple is notorious for controling all aspects of its hardware and software and will only bend under extreme pressure. An example being when they finally had to switch to intel based processors because of powerPC issues. They held on as long as they could before giving in. I still wonder if deep down they knew when they switched over to X86 architecture there OS would end up being able to be hacked to work on PCs. I have a dual boot on my Acer netbook running OSX. I have gotten some odd looks from apple owners at Starbucks in the past and even a few questions on how I did that.
The article points out how apple doesnt like how adobe controls flash out one side of his mouth while ignoring that apple will let no one release any hardware product with its OS besides apple. They control all aspects of their OS and product. The app store controls what you can install on the Iphone and unless you jailbreak it you cant install other product(from what my buddies with them tell me). If you want the apple OS you buy apple product, and apple charges a good penny for that product. It is a high quality product though no argument there. That seems to be okay with the author.
Adobe controlling all aspects of flash development even though its open to all, thats just wrong. Although it appears as though apple is trying to develop its own apple based alternitive to flash. Why? so they can continue to control all aspects of the apple OS interface and hardware.
http://www.neowin.net/news/adobe-cal...-flash-support
I had never even looked into the issue with apple before you posted this. I appreciate the link. In all honesty I dont support this. It smacks of an attempt to control all aspects of everything it touches. I really
If Palm delivers flash browser support as promised next month by adobe, then I think they will start to gain substantial market share. Adobe went out of its way to work with Palm in the development of flash support for its WebOs and would have done the same for Apple. The difference being Apple would not have owned and controlled it still and as they have shown they dont like that. Apple makes a lot of money controlling all aspects of everything with their products. Apple would never go to adobe for help. This will only change if demand becomes high enough and as the article you pointed out showed I guess enough dont care or are willing to accept this short comming
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Resipsa 08:40 AM 01-28-2010
alley00p 10:51 AM 01-29-2010
If you need something for your car to hold your iPhone, this is an item I've been using for about a year and a half:
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It can mount to your dashboard, windshield or A/C vents (I have mine mounted to the vents) and it will accomodate a plain iPhone or an iPhone using one of their Innocases (which I use with the belt mount). Look here at
Seidio's website for details...
:-)
The travel kit sells for 49.95, charges your phone while you are using it (GPS is great here) and it has a extra USB charger adapter on the side to recharge items like cameras or mp3 players.
:-)
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shilala 11:04 AM 01-29-2010
I have a couple gooseneck mounts, Charlie. They're awesome.
I got a dual charger that works with the usb cables so Lisa and I (or my daughter and I) can charge our iPhones or Touches simutaneously.
I also installed an rf modulator setup in the Envoy so I can plug my ipod or phone or touch right into the stereo, because it doesn't have a 5mm jack for aux.
Works great and sounds awesome.
:-)
On the app front, I found it fun to run iseismometer while I'm playing tunes over my phone's speaker. Especialy if it's bass-heavy stuff. It's fun.
:-)
It's far more geeky than visualizations. Plus Bigfoot can't sneak up on you. That's just and added benefit.
:-)
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