Tara's hand will never heal if she keeps throwing them rights:-)
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Lol that's what I told my wife. Tara needs to learn a left hook.
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Seems like it's all gonna be crashing down for Clay here soon...
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I thought last night's episode was a little dry and all over the place. I think it's because they're trying to set up so many things all at once.
I'm not saying it was bad, it had it's moments. It just wasn't up to par.
It's going to be impossible to keep up with all the story lines they have going on right now, doing justice to each one in any particular episode. Either that or it's just gonna get absolutely wild. :-)
I figure Clay kills Victor Sifuentes real soon. I'd like it to go the other way around cause I like Jimmy Smits and he's great for the show. :-)
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It was a great episode. It played into the fact jax is growing up and becoming all of his past
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OK wtf am I missing here? Clay is bad news, Jax knows this needs to get him but he needs proof? We gonna have a trial here or something. Frankie admits to FIVE people, including two not in the club that Clay is behind this mess. The guy hired with the van gives up more info.

Seriously we are waiting on more proof, but for who? Jax has at the least 4 or 5 votes on his side. Who does Clay have with the Nomads gone, 2 or 3? Bring the hooker and Jimmy Smits in to tell the Frankie story and vote the SOB and Frankie out of the club.

Once he's out of the club put a 45 slug in his head cause the only reason I can think not to kill Clay is because you aren't supposed to kill a club member.

Seriously you are vicious enough to kill the guard with a snow globe, the hired van driver and everything else but you don't have the nuts or smarts to bring it to the 'table' which you have majority of the votes locked up and kill this guy for good.

Talk about stretching the BS out.
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This may be true. BUT you have to think Jax needs to totally DESTROY clay. Clay has the support of the club even if he doesn't have the chair. You have to take in the fact that clay has held that chair for years and you know that if clay still has a hint of a doubt to stand on the club could be thrown into civil war. Also clay's ties to charming are going to back him over Jax. Clay needs to be taken out I TOTALLY agree but it needs to be done perfect.
:-) CLAY
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If you are talking about SAMC as a whole unit, not just little SAMCRO in Charming I can see your point about Clay having support given how long he was President of SAMCRO.

But I also think any of those loyalties could be totally blown by Gemma telling them about all the **** Clay did over the years. She has so much on him to destroy him yet, all we are gonna do is use her to be a spy for the current events. That doesn't make sense either.

The one marginal reason to keep Clay and totally bust him is the Irish and Jax's need to keep the Irish because of the CIA.

Even that is flimsy. Clay is toast and it isn't a court of law. IMO he has enough to go to the table.

SAMCRO is now only 8 members, two of which are Clay and Frankie. Tell me he doesn't have the votes to get rid of his rotten turd?
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Kurt Sutter....he needs to stretch this out for the rest of the season. :-)
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Jax is stone cold.
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I was thinking that Jax is having Jemma do this not as much to get proof against Clay, because I feel he has all the proof he needs to get rid of Clay, but to humiliate Jemma for what she did to his kids. Kind of 2 birds with one stone.
So he gets further proof, gets back at his mom, and cements his leadership role within SAMCRO.
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Here is Clays new club.

Image
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Lol awesome
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+1.

I feel like the show needs to finally allow Jax to kill Clay. Something tells me that won't happen. The show needs the inside-the-club antagonist. Season 5 and 6 of most shows start to tailspin and I think we are seeing that now. Sucks.
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Good episode.
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Agreed. Juice is toast. I was hoping Jax would bust in the house at the end of the episode and take out Clay and Juice at the same time.
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90 minute episode next week, so we'll see.


I gotta get me some of that perfume :-)
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Seems she's using her left hand just fine now....



:-)
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I don't understand why Jax needs Gemma to get new "secrets" out of clay.
Why can't Gemma just tell the club about how Clay killed JT?
Doesn't Jax have the letters now? That should be all the evidence he needs?
Or does the club have a statute of limitations on killing its members?

Also, if Jax figured out the rat, why meet with Eli?
Why risk meeting with a cop while you're armed and toting around a dead body?
Why tip your hand to Eli, and give him the opportunity to warn Juice?

I get that the show is pure pulp, and you aren't talking real life here, but I just feel like we've been down this road before.
The Jax/Clay stuff needs to end, it's getting stale.
I feel like I'm watching a dog chase his tail, over, and over again.
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I think juice will make a deal with Jax and give him info on clay
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