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WildBlueSooner 04:12 PM 04-14-2009
Originally Posted by beamish:
hail to the seals..:-)....I dont see what the problem is the solution is easy,first of all these cargo ships are carrying millions of dollars in cargo,what would be the cost of say 4 or 5 ex military specialists,to take the journey? heavily armed the pirates approach the ship the rpg leans over the side "poof" what pirates someone say pirates...its easy...
:-) You know there are some old grunts our their with the itch to kill!
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CBI_2 06:28 PM 04-14-2009
Originally Posted by RGD.:
I for one was elated to read the news reports. It's always just kinda pissed me off that a handful of "pirates" in little speed boats could actually take over a big ass ship like they do. So yeah - kudos to the Navy Seals on not wasting any bullets - 3 bad guys, 3 Navy Seals, 3 bullets! Practice pays off.

But why stop here. We have satellites, AWACS and all that other secret spy stuff at our disposal - so why not use it for more practice.

1 pirate mother ship.
1 US Navy attack submarine
1 torpedo.
Practice.

1 pirate strong hold.
1 Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
1 Tomahawk Block IV cruise missile.
Practice

1 pirate speed boat.
1 Navy/Marine AH-1 SuperCobra
1 AGM-114 Hellfire
Practice

The list could go on.

And before I forget - kudos to France also for jumping in and kicking some butt themselves.


Ron
:-) Practice in real time.
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replicant_argent 07:42 AM 04-15-2009
It seems the old ways may have an interest in the present. What was that old adage about studying history?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/21245
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kaisersozei 09:06 AM 04-15-2009
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BC-Axeman 09:50 AM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by kaisersozei:
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Moment of breech opening. Great picture. Great quote.
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replicant_argent 09:54 AM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by kaisersozei:
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There must have been, what........16 pirates by my count. :-)
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DPD6030 01:19 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
I was led to believe the ship itself is sovereign territory.
Then since there is no international police force to deal with it, anyone can do anything, anytime?
My house is not federal territory, kidnapping is a federal crime. I can defend myself and my house without help from any federal authority, since self defense is a God-given right. I would think anyone has the right to self defense anywhere, especially on a ship in international waters where nobody else can decide what to do.
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.
Hey Lance, where do I sign up?
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BC-Axeman 01:38 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
I wonder if there is any money to be made in independent pirate hunting.
Originally Posted by DPD6030:
Hey Lance, where do I sign up?
S. O. F. ?

I would think there could be a way to lead convoys under armed guard.
I like the idea of having sucker ships and disappearing pirates. Dead men tell no tales.
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Old Sailor 04:06 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by icehog3:
As soon as I move to Canada. :-) :-)
Welcome to Canada, Admiral:-)
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Old Sailor 04:08 PM 04-15-2009
Humm.....ships are made of steel.....pirate boats, probably fiberglass......eat steel ya slimey little **** runem over!!
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DrDubzz 05:28 PM 04-15-2009
Gun was an MK-11 from what I've read

google it
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SmokeyJoe 07:48 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe:
I hate Somali Pirates even more than Illinois Nazis! :-)

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This picture I posted of Henry Gibson as the Nazi from Blues Brothers was removed by photobucket... oops!
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lightning9191 08:37 PM 04-15-2009
Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe:
This picture I posted of Henry Gibson as the Nazi from Blues Brothers was removed by photobucket... oops!
Why? Nazis or copyright issues? Very interesting...:-)
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RGD. 10:20 PM 04-15-2009
Just read this:

Originally Posted by :
A French warship caught a "mother ship" 500 nautical miles (925 kilometres) off the Kenyan coast after tracking them from a failed attack on a Liberian-registered vessel, a French Defence Ministry spokesman said.

The 10-metre (33-foot) mother ship was carrying two assault skiffs for attacks, the spokesman said, adding that the captives were being held on the warship, the Nivose.

"The frigate spotted the pirates on the evening of April 14 when its helicopter intervened to thwart an attack on the merchant ship Safmarine Asia. It followed their boats overnight and intervened at dawn," he said.

:-):-)


Too bad that just didn't use it for target practice - :-)


Ron
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mosesbotbol 07:57 AM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by Old Sailor:
Humm.....ships are made of steel.....pirate boats, probably fiberglass......eat steel ya slimey little **** runem over!!
My neighbor is a merchant marine (just left for sea yesterday) and we've talked on this issue before. Making a wake is about the best the large ships can do. They are not nimble enough to start ramming pirate boats. They could easily sink them if they could.

Most of the pirates go for low sidewall boats and get on at night. The issue of preventing pirate attacks is more complex and has a risk vs. cost element to it that the shipping companies appear to be OK with.
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ABNMP619 08:15 AM 04-16-2009
Well, I look at it this way....MORE TARGET PRACTICE FOR THE U.S. NAVY SEALS AND THE SPECIAL FORCES GUYS'. HELL YEAH! Nothing like an early morning cigar and a sniper shot to the face. They will learn when their buddies start dying off one by one!
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ABNMP619 08:17 AM 04-16-2009
Well, I look at it this way.....MORE TARGET PRACTICE FOR THE U.S. NAVY SEALS AND THE SPECIAL FORCES GUYS'. Nothing like a morning smoke and a sniper shot to the face! They will learn when their buddies are dying off one by one.
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marge796 08:18 AM 04-16-2009
This will be very bloody before it's all over.


Chris.....
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357 09:15 AM 04-16-2009
Simple fix is repeal the disarmament laws many international ships are bound by. Armed people are less often considered as potential victims than their unarmed counterparts.
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Old Sailor 03:20 PM 04-16-2009
Originally Posted by mosesbotbol:
My neighbor is a merchant marine (just left for sea yesterday) and we've talked on this issue before. Making a wake is about the best the large ships can do. They are not nimble enough to start ramming pirate boats. They could easily sink them if they could.

Most of the pirates go for low sidewall boats and get on at night. The issue of preventing pirate attacks is more complex and has a risk vs. cost element to it that the shipping companies appear to be OK with.
There are many ways to prevent boarding...we practice it all the time....for these ships, firehoses are the best bet.........if they get a boarding ladder up either cut it off, or a sledge hammer on top of the head as they come up works. :-)
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