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IlmProcess 06:33 PM 04-15-2012
These are great reviews, thanks for taking the time guys!
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DBall 07:26 PM 04-22-2012
ApaxAZ Cigar #4
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4/21/2012

Today the heat broke triple digits signaling the end of spring and start of summer, so I waited for the sun to go down before starting. To go with tonights cigar I'll be sipping a double of Shieldaig 18 along with some Perrier.

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Pre-light
This cigar is 5.5" long and has a ring guage around 44. This cigar has a natural velvety wrapper with small veins. Triple capped, the cigars construction seems very good and has a slight spongy feel to it with no soft spots. The foot has a mild scent of sweet tobacco and grass.

The pre-light draw seems slightly tight, but okay to smoke. The draw reveals only subtle sweet tobacco and hay flavors.

1st Third
As I lit the cigar, I found the draw to be absolutely perfect. Once it started to settle, it was very smooth but somewhat flavorless. The aroma wafting from the end was very pleasant. For about the first half inch the cigar was extremely mild and hard to really pick out any real flavors. A little further in (around the time of the picture) I started to get a faint leather like flavor on some draws, while others were more of a sweet creamy flavor. I also keep noticing the aroma of the smoke and it just smells fantastic. The ash finally dropped after about 1 inch and at this point I started to really like how things were unfolding. The smoke developed into more of a medium body and had a sweet flavor somewhere in between caramel and vanilla. Although not quite the same, it reminded me of the Por Larranaga. The burn was pretty good with some minor tunneling.

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2nd Third
It took me about 25 minutes to progress to the 2nd third. So far the Perrier has been an excellent pallet cleanser, which is good because this cigar has been delicious. I also found that the scotch paired well. The cigar was so good I had to will myself to pace it. I continued to get a mainly sweet cream and vanilla flavor, as well as some other flavor mixed in that I couldn't quite place. I want to say it was like toast, but not really sure. Have I mentioned how good this has been so far? Even the smoke from the end smells sweet and delicious. The cigar has been tunneling slightly and I had to relight once, but overall the burn has been very straight and the ash consistently breaking off on it's own after about an inch. The flavor is medium bodied and the strength is mild, which is good because I don't smoke for the nicotine.

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Final Third
At around the 55 minute mark I had about a third to go and began to feel a little sad as I realized the end was nearing. The smoke was more medium to medium full in body and the flavor was still very sweet, but more of a creamy caramel flavor instead of vanilla. I also detected hints of leather, and some red pepper bite near the end. The deeper I got, the more it reminded me an opus x, only sweeter, smoother and not quite as strong. I really like the opus line and this was like a refined version with more complexity. The strength increased a little, which is to be expected this deep into a cigar, but still only in the medium range. I had to pick up the pace a little to keep the cigar from tunneling and going out, otherwise the burn continued to be very good.

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With a little less than an inch left, the tingling from the heat was was my cue to finally call it quits.

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Conclusion
Indeed, this cigar was life changing for me. My experience is limited with plenty of stuff I still haven't tried in my short 10 months of experience, but as of right now this was the best cigar I've ever had Because of this, it gets a perfect score. This will be the cigar by which everything else will be measured until something else can top it. It started out a little bland, but quickly developed into a complex, interesting and delicious experience through the entire length of the cigar. Although I was sad when it ended, I went inside with a feeling of immense satisfaction. Thank you, Dan, for providing me the opportunity to experience it. I don't know how I will ever be able to repay you. I'm really looking forward to #5.

Score: 10/10

Total smoke time: 90 minutes
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DBall 07:27 PM 04-22-2012
smitty81 Cigar #4
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I love Maduro and darker cigars generally, So I was pretty excited to try this cigar.

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Stick 4 appears to be 5.5" long and 42 Ga. or so. Darker wrapper, Maduro?

Smells of manure and a lite cocoa smell is present also........

A couple small veins in the wrapper whith what appears to be a single cap?

The draw seems good and the taste is of hay and it has a lingering cardboard aftertaste.

First 1/3rd

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What little smoke there is has a very nice aroma to it.

The first few puffs once it was lit was a creamy, velvety chocolate taste. It wasn't real strong which disappointed me. Seems to burn pretty sharp.

The ash held on for about an inch before it fell off.

It kind of reminds me of a Diesel minus the toasted marshmallow flavor. Maby an espresso like taste.

None of these flavors have a strong presence at all.


2/3rd


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The cigar has started to go downhill in taste starting in the 2/3rd.

I am now pretty strong cardboard taste.I had pretty high hopes for this cigar because of the darker wrapper but these are not the flavors I am expecting from a darker stick.

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The cardboard hangs on untill the end of the 2/3rd.


The last third.


The flavors are now cardboard and a burnt wood. I have decided that the first inch of this cigar has enjoyable but everything after that has put me off.

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If this is a CC, I have to say that I have had way better smokes that were bought here in the states for around the $3.00 range. This cigar was just a let down in the flavor department IMOP.

After the first few draws on this cigar I had thought this might develope into a good cigar with some nice chocolate flavors but it failed to deliver.

I am going to give this cigar a 5/10.
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DBall 07:33 PM 04-22-2012
What they smoked:

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2011 Ramon Allones Allones Extra

ApexAZ score: 10

smitty81 score: 5

Ha! I love these things. I put this in as a way to test my theory that NC smokers would like this cigar... hahaha. I smoked one today, in fact, to see how I felt about it. This mo fo was STRONG and definitely not my favorite cigar. I picked up a fair amount of them and fully intend on letting the rest of the boxes sleep for a long, long time.

I think it is funny that these 2 have such differing views. If one likes it, the other hates it... and these were all side by side from the same box... :-)

Quick question... are either of you blowing the smoke out your nose? If not, try it. :-)
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Whipper Snapper 07:35 PM 04-22-2012
I wish I was a newb :-)

DBall, you're the man.
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smitty81 07:44 PM 04-22-2012
Dball........I retro-haled a little on each of your cigars. I guess I don't really get anything out of it.:-)


Originally Posted by :
I put this in as a way to test my theory that NC smokers would like this cigar... hahaha.
What did you mean by that comment?
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Blak Smyth 07:45 PM 04-22-2012
Wow, that round was very interesting. Great selection of sticks Dball!
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mase 07:49 PM 04-22-2012
Really enjoyed this round - different strokes for different folks.
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ApexAZ 08:06 PM 04-22-2012
Yep, I always blow some out through my nose. I thought it was awesome. I wouldn't have said it was very strong though.
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smitty81 08:07 PM 04-22-2012
Originally Posted by ApexAZ:
Yep, I always blow some out through my nose. I thought it was awesome. I wouldn't have said it was very strong though.
I agree
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DBall 08:07 PM 04-22-2012
Originally Posted by ApexAZ:
Yep, I always blow some out through my nose. I thought it was awesome. I wouldn't have said it was very strong though.

Ehh... I just smoke old, crusty crap. This cigar is 20 years too young....... :-)
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ApexAZ 08:15 PM 04-22-2012
Originally Posted by DBall:
Ehh... I just smoke old, crusty crap. This cigar is 20 years too young....... :-)
Yeah, by those standards I guess. I thought it was very sweet. It was awesome.
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Whipper Snapper 08:17 PM 04-22-2012
Originally Posted by DBall:
Ehh... I just smoke old, crusty crap. This cigar is 20 years too young....... :-)
mmm, old crusties
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yourchoice 09:08 PM 04-22-2012
Dan's at it again! I love these threads. :-)

Good job on the reviews, guys...keep it up!
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CRIMPS 11:12 AM 04-23-2012
Yeah, just love these threads. Great reviews as always.
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Nimbus 06:34 PM 04-29-2012
Dan's the man. I really enjoy these blind taste test threads. :-)
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maninblack 06:37 PM 04-29-2012
Thanks for the reviews gents, always enjoy reading them.
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Hooligan 06:55 PM 04-29-2012
Great reviews so far.
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DBall 07:19 PM 04-29-2012
Originally Posted by Nimbus:
Dan's the man. I really enjoy these blind taste test threads. :-)
JIAN!!! Where you been, man?!
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Riff Raff 05:15 AM 05-01-2012
Originally Posted by Nimbus:
Dan's the man. I really enjoy these blind taste test threads. :-)
Repeated for truth! I remember when I was doing these. I was in #2 and it was awesome. This is by far the best thread in the whole forum if you ask me.
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