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croatan 09:22 PM 04-02-2009
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
Bought my first gun tonight - a home defense gun. Getting married made me feel even more responsible for my "family's" (wife's) safety, and seeing news about apartment breakins, rapes and murders didn't make me any more comfortable. My wife is very petite, so I wanted something that she A) could handle, and B) could shoot and stop with the first shot. We settled on a Remington 870 Express compact with a 21" barrel and 12" length of pull - only 6 lbs and manageable with her short arms. We'll take it out to a range this Saturday so she can get used to it. :-) for me.
That sounds familiar :-)

Nice choice, Mikey :-)
pearson 09:41 PM 04-02-2009
enjoy and stay safe
elderboy02 09:44 PM 04-02-2009
Nice pickup Mikey! :-)
bonjing 09:58 PM 04-02-2009
hey Mikey, don't forget the low recoil rounds.
mikeyj23 05:41 AM 04-03-2009
I picked up some 7 1/2 heavy doveshot, but I think I might change that up for home use. Low recoil would certainly be a plus, but I don't want to sacrifice any stopping power - suggestions? Also since it's an apartment, I don't want something that might go through five walls.
Catfish 05:47 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
My wife is very petite, so I wanted something that she A) could handle, and B) could shoot and stop with the first shot.
May I also suggest a collapsible stock as an immediate option for different sized people to comfortably and safely operate a shotgun?

Things to consider down the road for a home defense shotgun:

Accessory rail to hold a light.
high intensity light. The Surefire L4 immediately comes to mind.
Ghost Ring sights.
Receiver mounted shell carrier
Breacher barrel
With a 21" barrel, I'd highly suggest a high capacity tube extension. You could probably extend the shot capacity to 8.

If you want, I'd be more than happy to send you links for any of these.

I wish you the best of luck doing any sort of instruction with your wife. Most instructors recommend against spouses instructing each other. But, you 2 may be an exeception! The most important thing is to HAVE FUN! :-)
Catfish 05:49 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
I picked up some 7 1/2 heavy doveshot, but I think I might change that up for home use. Low recoil would certainly be a plus, but I don't want to sacrifice any stopping power - suggestions? Also since it's an apartment, I don't want something that might go through five walls.
Check out #4 Buck. :-)
mikeyj23 06:13 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Catfish:
May I also suggest a collapsible stock as an immediate option for different sized people to comfortably and safely operate a shotgun?

Things to consider down the road for a home defense shotgun:

Accessory rail to hold a light.
high intensity light. The Surefire L4 immediately comes to mind.
Ghost Ring sights.
Receiver mounted shell carrier
Breacher barrel
With a 21" barrel, I'd highly suggest a high capacity tube extension. You could probably extend the shot capacity to 8.

If you want, I'd be more than happy to send you links for any of these.

I wish you the best of luck doing any sort of instruction with your wife. Most instructors recommend against spouses instructing each other. But, you 2 may be an exeception! The most important thing is to HAVE FUN! :-)
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.
elderboy02 07:27 AM 04-03-2009
I would definitely get the tube extension and light :-)
Tombstone 08:13 AM 04-03-2009
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks
-MG- 08:40 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks

I've carried my G27 almost daily for the last 3 years in 'The Answer' from Tucker Gunleather using the velcrow clips, and couldn't be happier. Even taking 7hr drives to see the inlaws, it stays perfectly comfortable.
floydpink 08:43 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.

That's exactly how I felt putting the Crimson Trace 405 grips on my 38 special, but now would get rid of the gun before I got rid of the laser grips. They cost me $300 and the J frame snubbie was not much more.

I thought about putting a light on my Mossberg 500, but figure it will broadcast where I am at in the unfortunate event it comes off the rack in the middle of the night, overriding the benefit of target ID.
Catfish 09:41 AM 04-03-2009
If you're wantig to stay more budget, I highly recommend the light I personally carry, the Surefire G2 LED. You can get the from the gunshows for $45.

I only mentioned the L4 because I personally want one.
Catfish 09:42 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks
I personally use Thunderwear for when I wear soft clothes ( jogging pants ) and SERPA for anything with a belt.
stitch 11:05 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
I am seriously considering purchasing a Glock G27. Does anyone have any recommendations for a quality concealed carry holster? Thanks
Uhhmmm you could check out my site :-)
http://www.mountainhomeleather.com
I also do a snap on model which isn't on the site yet
Tombstone 11:11 AM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Catfish:
I personally use Thunderwear for when I wear soft clothes ( jogging pants ) and SERPA for anything with a belt.
The serpa....do you have a problem consealing the firearm with this style of holster? Any close calls? Thanks
bobarian 11:47 AM 04-03-2009
In the last month I picked my first guns in over 25 years. AR-15, 16" barrel, A-4 lightweight build. And a Ruger 10/22 as I need something I can actually shoot while I search endlessly for .223 ammo at a decent price. :-)
BC-Axeman 12:00 PM 04-03-2009
Speaking of ammo at decent prices, where is a good source of bulk components? I mean, where does anybody have stock? "Out of Stock, Backorder OK?" Sheez!
Catfish 01:11 PM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by Tombstone:
The serpa....do you have a problem consealing the firearm with this style of holster? Any close calls? Thanks
I'm 6'2" @ 300lbs. I can conceal an Abrahms tank. When used with belt securement, it does tend to stick out a little more laterally from the body than an IWB holster. I counter that by wearing a photographer's vest. There is no threat of printing with that. It's when I wear my rayon summer shirts that are just like silk I have to be very cognizant of printing. In many cases, I will go to the Thunderwear when that could be an issue.
AriesOpusX 03:36 PM 04-03-2009
Originally Posted by mikeyj23:
Thanks for all the great advice - I think the collapsible stock is a great idea. The L4 would be great, but it's sure hard for me to justify putting a $175 light on a $270 gun. The tube extension is another definite; as it is I can have one loaded and four in the magazine (2 3/4", not 3"), but 8 would be great.

Go to walmart and get a mini maglite or any bright LED flashlight, strap it/duct tape it to the gun and be done with it for about $20. All you need is something to see with and you can easily flip a switch or push a button as you grab the gun to turn the light on, I don't know why they sell $300 flashlights to anyone besides members of SWAT.

Tube extention is great for the range definitely but in my house if I need more than 5 slugs I'd better call for backup. :-)
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