crgcpro 08:28 PM 06-05-2013
Nope something is going to get me eventually. May as well enjoy the ride!
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neoflex 11:09 PM 06-05-2013
Originally Posted by icehog3:
The relaxation I get from cigars reduces my personal risk of stress induced stroke tenfold....that's all I nned to know. :-)
This is my philosophy to a tee. When my wife and I first started getting serious years ago she gave me a little grief about smoking cigars especially since she quit smoking cigarettes because she knew I despised them. I flat out told her that if the cigars were gone that the stress would get me much faster than the cigars ever could. Plus I backed it up by showing her a laundry list of people who smoked 3-5 a day who lived well into their 90's. Needless to say she saw my point and stopped giving me grief about it. Years later my spending on the hobby became an issue but I quickly learned how to mask that so that it didn't look as bad.
:-) She's even gotten better on that front too so it's been a win win all around but I do make sure I keep most of what I buy quiet and don't flaunt it. No need to re-ignite that issue. I also only smoke between 1 or 2 a week most often so it's not like I am like most cigarette smokers and just mowing down sticks non stop freight train style. For me it's a way to sit and relax and forget about the stresses of everyday life for an hour or two whether it's sitting outside with a stick and a drink or hanging out with the guys smoking and shooting the sh*t. If it ever did become an issue with my health I know I could quit in a heart beat even though I would really miss the social aspect of it but I know I would have the ability to stop cold turkey if needed.
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emopunker2004 11:54 PM 06-05-2013
Originally Posted by FUEL:
About 98% of the population...:-)
Yup. My buddy smoked one with me the other night. He usually smokes hookah. He inhaled and coughed something fierce. I said, yeh don't do that
:-)
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Weelok 12:59 AM 06-06-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Yup. My buddy smoked one with me the other night. He usually smokes hookah. He inhaled and coughed something fierce. I said, yeh don't do that :-)
Haha!!! My friends that smoke cigarettes don't get cigars at all and a poor Vietamese friend turned green smoking through half a mild cigar before setting it down. I figure he powered through 30 cigarettes in that one setting!!!
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shark 07:17 PM 06-07-2013
I think there are a lot of other factors involved regarding this. You can mention Milton Berle, Winston Churchill, George Burns, but then again there were a couple of other famous cigar smokers who died of oral/throat cancer: Sigmund Freud and Babe Ruth. Freud was very fond of his cocaine along with his cigars, and Ruth drank like a fish. Connection? Maybe. In any case, I don't worry much about it.
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Heavy_d 09:52 PM 06-09-2013
I'm overweight (working on getting that down), work in a fast paced/high stress job (911 dispatcher), have mildly high blood pressure & have a family history of cardiac issues, so my 3-4 cigars a week are the least of my worries. Especially since they help the diet by giving me something else to do when I'm bored besides eating, & seem to help with the stress & BP by giving me a chance to just sit down & relax & unwind. The way I see it, when it's your time, it's your time. Might as well enjoy the life we have.
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oooo35980 05:30 PM 06-10-2013
I can see how a 2 pack a day smoker could greatly increase his risk of cancer and other health problems, but my 2 or 3 cigars a week? The risk increase is probably so small it would have to be measured in fractions of a percent.
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NCRadioMan 06:22 PM 06-10-2013
The original, only non-biased Surgeon General's report from 1964 concluded that cigar smokers mortality rate is virtually the same as a non-smoker. It also concluded that pipe smokers mortality rate was
lower than non-smokers.
What is there to be worried about? You have decidedly better chance getting killed in a car wreck on the way to work. Think about that.
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organgrinder 01:36 AM 06-15-2013
Interesting thread I just switched to sticks for this very reason. 3 weeks ago I was a pack a day smoker now I smoke one acid crush (at lunch) and one robusto in the eve. I couldn't feel better no more coughing or hacking brown bits in the morning. I also get an level of enjoyment I had lost a long time ago with cigs
On a long enough timeline the line expectancy for everything goes to zero
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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan:
The original, only non-biased Surgeon General's report from 1964 concluded that cigar smokers mortality rate is virtually the same as a non-smoker. It also concluded that pipe smokers mortality rate was lower than non-smokers.
What is there to be worried about? You have decidedly better chance getting killed in a car wreck on the way to work. Think about that.
I guess it's not so much a deep worry but I am a member on about 4 other forms and one BOTL posted a thread on how upset he was that due to a non mouth throat or teeth issue his doctor told him had to quit herfing and it got me thinking. That and I was curious about the risks of a smoker who just for lack of a better term just mouths it vs mouthing and retrohaling. When I "learned" how to retrohale a few years back from Doc at Stogie Fresh it was a whole new ball game and I could not imagine smoking without retrohaling.
I hope that makes sense.
J.
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CigarSquid 10:33 AM 06-16-2013
Don't sweat the small things. DO not worry or stress out over things that you have no controll over.
I do not worry. When people tell me that it is just as bad as a cigarette, I say, so be it. It is what I chose and what I live with.
As stated many times in the thread, You are dying soon as you are born. I enjoy what I do and do it with no regrets. I enjoy the life I have and if something strikes me and I have time to help/change my habits, I will adjust to it then.
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sammysteve 04:02 AM 12-18-2018
I loved smoking in my initial years. But later, I tried almost everything to quit. Every time I ended up in tears feeling really depressed. I started investing my time in reading some good blogs on quitting cigarette and it really helped. I hope that this article
https://www.everydayhealh.com//guide/ is similarly effective for you, good luck.
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hotreds 07:35 AM 12-18-2018
RUNYYFan 08:21 AM 12-18-2018
Not really. Living in Joisey, I'm more concerned with the lunatics who think they can drive on the roads. Smoking 1-2 sticks over the weekend, paired with a double of Balvenie 14, gives me the opportunity to relax after a 90 hour week.
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icehog3 09:59 AM 12-18-2018
Originally Posted by sammysteve:
I loved smoking in my initial years. But later, I tried almost everything to quit. Every time I ended up in tears feeling really depressed. I started investing my time in reading some good blogs on quitting cigarette and it really helped. I hope that this article https://www.everydayhealh.com//guide/ is similarly effective for you, good luck.
Thanks, but we're all on a cigar forum because we're not trying to quit smoking.
Oh, and buh bye.
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SmokeyJoe 04:20 PM 12-18-2018
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Thanks, but we're all on a cigar forum because we're not trying to quit smoking.
Oh, and buh bye.
Well done, sir!
Merry Christmas, Tom.
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icehog3 04:38 PM 12-18-2018
Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe:
Well done, sir!
Merry Christmas, Tom.
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Joe !
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Jannarisst 03:30 PM 12-26-2018
I see no reason to worry. Even if something happens - there is medicine. Many men became impotent and doctors created
viagra. Very soon, we generally will not think about health. Only need will be money
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markem 03:32 PM 12-26-2018
Originally Posted by Jannarisst:
I see no reason to worry. Even if something happens - there is medicine. Many men became impotent and doctors created viagra. Very soon, we generally will not think about health. Only need will be money
And I had such high hope for you not being a bot / spammer.
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icehog3 03:40 PM 12-26-2018
Originally Posted by markem:
And I had such high hope for you not being a bot / spammer.
Yup, I saw the post in "What Cigar did you smoke" and thought we had a new member.
Not so much .
:-)
Love the edit though.
:-)
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