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Frank-D-Tank 03:08 PM 05-05-2013
Originally Posted by Fordman4ever:
Its a 4th gen and it has only had around 250 rounds through it. my buddy is building an AR and needs the money. It comes with 3 mags, cleaning rod, back strap holster, and a hard case. It was purchased brand new last august. I think I'm getting a pretty good deal.
Yea, I'd jump on it. I just bought one about a month ago (3rd Gen), they are hard to find in my area right now. Couldn't find a 4th Gen. New ones are going around mid 500's if IIRC.
Chainsaw13 03:46 PM 05-05-2013
Originally Posted by cigarmonkel:
Hmm a LGS has a stripped dpms lower for 205.. 40 bucks more then online but its in stock... what do yoi guys think?
That's actually a good price when you think if the FFL transfer fee you'd have to pay if you order one from online. Minimum would be $15.

Went and shot the sporting clays course today with the new shotgun. Worked like crap. No way my aim is that bad. :-)

Actually, it performed really, really good. I'm hooked. Stopped by a local store afterwards and was able to score 10 boxes of shells for $5.50/box.
cigarmonkel 03:53 PM 05-05-2013
Nice! I just found out there's a pistol/archery/black powder and rifle range in my area with upto 600yard lanes and clays too :-). I'm not even close to having all my paets for the ar and now I want a shotgun too... I thought the cigar slope was slippery. This is no slope.. more like a cliff.
Fordman4ever 04:15 PM 05-05-2013
Bought it. now to get my CCW
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Remo 04:36 PM 05-05-2013
Nice job Earl :-)
Fordman4ever 04:39 PM 05-05-2013
Thanks. Can't wait to start buying stuff for it.
Chainsaw13 05:06 PM 05-05-2013
Originally Posted by cigarmonkel:
Nice! I just found out there's a pistol/archery/black powder and rifle range in my area with upto 600yard lanes and clays too :-). I'm not even close to having all my paets for the ar and now I want a shotgun too... I thought the cigar slope was slippery. This is no slope.. more like a cliff.
Wheres that at? I would love to try some long range stuff when I get my tack driver built.
Chainsaw13 05:07 PM 05-05-2013
Nicely done Earl.
cigarmonkel 05:12 PM 05-05-2013
Washtenaw sportsmens club. Its not real clear if you need to be a member or not though. I know the events they run are open to the public.
cigarmonkel 05:22 PM 05-05-2013
First round of brass tumbling ever is done! Is it ok if the marks on the inside of the case at the very bottom where the primer sits are still there? Inside and outside case walls are clean and shiny.
Remo 11:51 PM 05-05-2013


Next piece of furniture for my AR. Eotech Zombie Stopper
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Blueface 06:34 AM 05-06-2013
Originally Posted by Fordman4ever:
Bought it. now to get my CCW
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Love that gun.
One thing I would like to point out that may or may not be a problem, depending on how you intend to carry.
I am a fan of the Gen 4 as like the subtle changes on my 21 from the Gen 3.
However, when I was shopping for a concealed .40 (changed my mind and ended up with a Shield 9), I was bent on getting the 27 until the salesman asked me to try to conceal it. When I did, I realized what he was trying to point out is how that Gen 4 grip irritates the crap out of your skin as those little grip bumps rub on your skin.
Within seconds, I had an annoying rash.
May or may not be a problem for you but thought I would give you a heads up.
However, regardless, awesome gun and congrats!
bonjing 10:40 AM 05-06-2013
Good point Carlos, I forgot all about the tearing up of skin and shirts. I have a 17 RTF and although I didn't conceal that one, it rubbed holes into my work shirts.
MrClean 11:07 AM 05-06-2013
This was my dads, he gave it to me shortly before passing away. He loved this gun. I just got it back from the gunsmith, I lost a part when I took it apart to clean it. Colt .357 Peacekeeper, going to shoot with it this weekend if the weather is fit.
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Dad's old revolver by Jeff Carroll01, on Flickr
Remo 11:14 AM 05-06-2013
Sweet gun Jeff :-)
Blueface 11:48 AM 05-06-2013
Sweet gun indeed.
Mark C 01:40 PM 05-06-2013
Originally Posted by cigarmonkel:
First round of brass tumbling ever is done! Is it ok if the marks on the inside of the case at the very bottom where the primer sits are still there? Inside and outside case walls are clean and shiny.
You mean black ash/dirt inside the primer pocket? If you got a reloading kit, it probably came with a primer pocket cleaner. You can use that to make it a bit better. You're really just making sure there's nothing in there that would prevent the primer from seating fully - i.e. fairly significant buildup.

For what it's worth, I clean the pockets for my rifle brass, but not pistol.
cigarmonkel 05:18 PM 05-06-2013
Originally Posted by Mark C:
You mean black ash/dirt inside the primer pocket? If you got a reloading kit, it probably came with a primer pocket cleaner. You can use that to make it a bit better. You're really just making sure there's nothing in there that would prevent the primer from seating fully - i.e. fairly significant buildup.

For what it's worth, I clean the pockets for my rifle brass, but not pistol.
Thanks for the info! The brass has only been shot once and I cleaned them with the primers still in to prevent media in the primer pockets. They all look decently clean in there.
FUEL 05:24 PM 05-06-2013
Originally Posted by Frank-D-Tank:
Yea, I'd jump on it. I just bought one about a month ago (3rd Gen), they are hard to find in my area right now. Couldn't find a 4th Gen. New ones are going around mid 500's if IIRC.
Mid $500s?? Wholy crap. Here picked up a 4th gen 23 for $425.
Blueface 05:52 PM 05-06-2013
Originally Posted by FUEL:
Mid $500s?? Wholy crap. Here picked up a 4th gen 23 for $425.
For a brand new Gen 4?
Where would that be? That is too good to pass up.
Upwards of $500 even online.
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