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mahtofire14 02:53 PM 03-07-2013
I'm looking at purchasing my first hand gun. I will mostly use it at the range and not primarily a conceal and carry. That being said, I have found three that I really like. The Glock 23, Springfield's XD, and the Sig P250. I love the way all three of these shoot. I'm leaning towards the Sig because it is a modular handgun and you can buy the conversion kit to change out the full size to the subcompact size when needed. Thought?
emopunker2004 03:30 PM 03-07-2013
I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.
cobra03 03:37 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.
:-) I own a Glock 23 and personally I love it. Its good to shoot at the range but isnt to large to carry conceled if you need to.
mahtofire14 03:44 PM 03-07-2013
The Glock was probably my favorite to shoot. The price point of the Sig and the functionality of it are selling me right now......:-)
emopunker2004 03:49 PM 03-07-2013
Well from what I've seen the 250 is the black sheep of the sig line among sig fans
mahtofire14 04:14 PM 03-07-2013
Really? I have seen or heard next to no poor reviews on the p250.
Boz 08:44 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
I'm a glock fanboy so nothing further need be said.
Originally Posted by cobra03:
:-) I own a Glock 23 and personally I love it. Its good to shoot at the range but isnt to large to carry conceled if you need to.
<-----Also a fan of the 23 :-)
smitty81 08:58 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by Boz:
<-----Also a fan of the 23 :-)
I got a G17C, G20 and a G33. Love my Glocks. I was thinking of getting a G19 but I think I will just throw a barrel in my 33 for now.
emopunker2004 09:01 PM 03-07-2013
The good thing about Glocks is that with a barrel and sometimes mag swap you can change calliber. 40SW --> 357 sig etc. Glocks are very simple and easy to work on.
smitty81 09:06 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
The good thing about Glocks is that with a barrel and sometimes mag swap you can change calliber. 40SW --> 357 sig etc. Glocks are very simple and easy to work on.
Indeed. I can shoot the 40,9,357 and I'd have to double check but might even be able to shoot the 10 all out of one gun with the required changes of corse.:-)
emopunker2004 09:07 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by smitty81:
Indeed. I can shoot the 40,9,357 and I'd have to double check but might even be able to shoot the 10 all out of one gun with the required changes of corse.:-)
9mm requires mag change and the 10mm can only be shot out of the 45 models with barrel and mag changes.
smitty81 09:12 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
9mm requires mag change and the 10mm can only be shot out of the 45 models with barrel and mag changes.
I'd change the mag with each caliber anyhow. Wasn't sure on the 10mm though.

I'm thinking I might buy a 9mm barrel for my 33
emopunker2004 09:12 PM 03-07-2013
the 357 and 40 use the same mags and follower
smitty81 09:15 PM 03-07-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
the 357 and 40 use the same mags and follower
Same follower too? Huh wasn't aware of that.
emopunker2004 09:16 PM 03-07-2013
Yeh. the 357 is just a 40 case necked down to take a 9mm bullet. since the bulk of the case is the same and the part that contacts the follower is the same, they have the same follower. Much like you can shoot 300BLK in a 300BLK AR with regular 5.56 mags.
Brian D. 05:54 AM 03-08-2013
I wish some of the other polymer handguns would come out in 10mm. Got a pair of Glock model 20s. They do the job for carry in bear/wild boar country but I seem to shoot the Springfield XD guns better. Not very much hands on with the Smith Wesson M&P's but I believe the same is true for me with those versus the Glocks.

I've owned a Colt Delta Elite but sold it after realizing I was not gonna use it for carry out in the wilds. Too dang pretty.
mahtofire14 06:57 AM 03-08-2013
That's the same as the Sig p250. It can change out from full to compact, to sub compact. Also can change cal from 9 to 40 to 45 ACP. Won't do 10 though.
Digs 07:47 AM 03-08-2013
Originally Posted by mahtofire14:
I'm looking at purchasing my first hand gun. I will mostly use it at the range and not primarily a conceal and carry. That being said, I have found three that I really like. The Glock 23, Springfield's XD, and the Sig P250. I love the way all three of these shoot. I'm leaning towards the Sig because it is a modular handgun and you can buy the conversion kit to change out the full size to the subcompact size when needed. Thought?
I do not like the Sig 250 its DA trigger pull is horrible, I have now played with 2 of them over the last 6 months were the owners complain of shooting chronically to the left. The last one I looked at last week had the rear sight drifted all the way over and still wasn’t shooting center..... Plus they only come with 1 mag! and last I checked the mags for them were like $39 ea(compared to $20-$25 for factory Glock mags) 4th Gen Glocks come with 3 mags.:-)

In my opinion the Sig 250 is meant to compete with the Tarus Millennium and pistols of that appeal.

There is no one pistol that can adapt to all scenarios, kind of like trying to use a hammer as a screw driver, paint brush or level, lol . Generally “Modular” do it all designs only attract first time buyers.

Like mentioned already my Glock’s are usually my go to gun, personally if its your first CCW handgun I would recommend you look at the G19 also right now still in love with my XD's. 45 although I am not a HUGE XD fan.
issues 08:10 AM 03-08-2013
I'm in a similar boat as Pete, I have decided on 2 different pistols and need to pick one; both in 40 S&W and both fully ambidextrous (I'm a lefty).

First is the Walther PPQ known for their excellent ergos and possibly the best trigger of any polymer pistol. Comes with 2 mags with 12 round capacity and 3 interchangeable back straps.

The other is the FNH FNS. Good trigger, external safety, night sights standard, 3 14 round mags, 2 back straps and a lower bore axis than the PPQ.

The prices are almost identical (within 20 dollars). Any advice would be appreciated.
issues 09:18 AM 03-08-2013
Nevermind, went with the PPQ 40. It was my first choice and they we selling fast!

Should have it in the next couple of weeks!!! :-)
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