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DBall 09:50 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by The Professor:
A shot of the DrMS's pre-func before we left for downtown last night (I was the designated driver):

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I'll get some of the people shots I took last night up once I have a chance to go through them just a little bit more....
That is just awesome... composition and all! :-):-)
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The Professor 09:52 AM 01-01-2010
These are all from last night. Pics were shot with my Canon T1i, Tamron 28-75 f/2.8, and Canon 430EX II flash (hehehe). Most shots are at 200 ISO, f/5.6, and 1/125-1/200 SS. Flash was usually set to bounce @ 75 degrees. Use an exif viewer to see the specific stats. Post-processing was minimal in Aperture. Some of these I might do a real PP on in Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop; but that'll wait....

Caught a friend at a moment of insight, converted to B&W:
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Tweaked with the lighting and got an interestingly lit pic of the DrMS:
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Not the sharpest photo of the county courthouse ever; but not bad for 1/25 handheld (no IS):
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Played with flash on the second curtain when this drunk guy came over to our table:
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I swear I shot in color all night; but another turned to P&W in post:
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C&C appreciated....
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longknocker 10:00 AM 01-01-2010
Awesome Pics, D!:-) Do You Give Lessons?:-)
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DBall 10:02 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by The Professor:
Not the sharpest photo of the county courthouse ever; but not bad for 1/25 handheld (no IS):
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I know you're a Dokk, but are you a surgeon? :-) Hahahaha... 1/25 with no IS, no tripod taken by me would look like sh1t.
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The Professor 10:24 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by longknocker:
Awesome Pics, D!:-) Do You Give Lessons?:-)
LoL! Thanks for the kind words, Greg.

Originally Posted by DBall:
I know you're a Dokk, but are you a surgeon? :-) Hahahaha... 1/25 with no IS, no tripod taken by me would look like sh1t.
For the last time, Dan, I will NOT do your operation. :-)

Thanks for the compliment. I have a steady hand sometimes. If you were to crop in, the flaws would become more apparent. Truthfully, it'd be an awesome shot with a long exposure -- I just think my town's old courthouse is cool as hell. In fact, here's the view on a sunny day from the other side of the square:

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The Professor 10:29 AM 01-01-2010
Okay ... one last pic. Wife was totally perplexed as to why I was taking a photo of her hands and drink. I thought it turned out nicely, though. B&W was a must here with the lighting and detail.

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Darrell 10:32 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Wolfgang:
The F# represents aperture. All lenses have a series of blades in them that open or close.
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A low F stop (f/1.8) the blades are completely open allowing the most light to hit the sensor (or film) This creates a very shallow depth of field.

A higher F stop (f/36) the blades are almost all the way closed this allows little light to hit the sensor so longer shutter speeds are needed to get the right exposure.

With a high F stop the Depth of field will be much greater. For an all around decent Depth of field I shoot between F/8 and F/11.

Photographers such as Jerry Uelsmann and Ansel Adams would have such a high F stop that their exposures could take hours for one shot and everything would be in focus. But this also has to do with the ISO or speed of the film. But that's another topic.

Let me know if I'm making any sense. :-)
Perfect sense. Will I lose that cool blur of the background though if I raise the F stop?
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The Professor 10:36 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Darrell:
Perfect sense. Will I lose that cool blur of the background though if I raise the F stop?
It depends on how much you raise the number (which lets in less light), it depends on the lens, and it depends on other compositional factors. But generally, yes -- as you raise the f-stop, depth of field increases and that background blur (called bokeh [click the link]) goes down.
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Wolfgang 10:38 AM 01-01-2010
Most likely. That's the thing with Photography. You have to find the right balance of everything to make the perfect picture. You can keep the cool blur (boque) If you adjust the distance between the subject and the lights in the background.
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Wolfgang 10:39 AM 01-01-2010
Nice Doc. Almost the same answers. :-)
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The Professor 10:42 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Wolfgang:
Nice Doc. Almost the same answers. :-)
Get out of my brain! :-)

:-)
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Blueface 11:00 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Darrell:
Perfect sense. Will I lose that cool blur of the background though if I raise the F stop?
Originally Posted by The Professor:
It depends on how much you raise the number (which lets in less light), it depends on the lens, and it depends on other compositional factors. But generally, yes -- as you raise the f-stop, depth of field increases and that background blur (called bokeh [click the link]) goes down.
Darrell,
that is what makes it so much fun.
It is all a combination of speed with which you take the picture (more speed, less light, less speed, more light) coupled with aperture (the lower the f stop number, the more light but less depth of field, the greater the f number, the less light but more depth of field/more sharpness).
For example, with manual focusing medium format cameras that most wedding photographers used in my days, we use to set the lens to f 8, adjust shutter and flash as necessary for that f stop and hence they can set their range on the lens to a focus of 15 feet and close their eyes when shooting couples walking into a church or hall. There is no way anything within an 8 ft focus range will not be clear.

So, it all depends on what you seek. In the photos you posted, I agree with them comments that you needed to adjust your depth of field to better capture ones eye to your subject. By increasing your f stop and by reducing your shutter speed, you would have accomplished the same lighting result.
While you learn, I recommend you go with the aperture priority setting on your dial and play with higher f stops. As you do that, the camera will automatically reduce your shutter to compensate for your new setting. After you have played with that a while, you can go to full manual mode and control both as you see fit for the result you seek.
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Blueface 11:06 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by The Professor:
Not the sharpest photo of the county courthouse ever; but not bad for 1/25 handheld (no IS):
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Darrel,
It takes practice and not all can do it but you can actually hold down pretty well as low as 1/15 and possibly 1/8.
I can do 1/8 no problem but have done stuff like that for years so I set my body up in a tripod type stance and have adopted ways of pulling it off. Doesn't always work but I can usually pull it off more times than not.
Don't be afraid to try it. Also, don't let the camera tell you what f stop. Open it up manually as you go lower and you will open up light.

I have to go back and check my settings but this is an example of one I recall shooting at least at 1/15, if not 1/8.

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Blueface 11:12 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by The Professor:
Okay ... one last pic. Wife was totally perplexed as to why I was taking a photo of her hands and drink. I thought it turned out nicely, though. B&W was a must here with the lighting and detail.

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Great shot.
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Darrell 11:17 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Darrell,
that is what makes it so much fun.
It is all a combination of speed with which you take the picture (more speed, less light, less speed, more light) coupled with aperture (the lower the f stop number, the more light but less depth of field, the greater the f number, the less light but more depth of field/more sharpness).
For example, with manual focusing medium format cameras that most wedding photographers used in my days, we use to set the lens to f 8, adjust shutter and flash as necessary for that f stop and hence they can set their range on the lens to a focus of 15 feet and close their eyes when shooting couples walking into a church or hall. There is no way anything within an 8 ft focus range will not be clear.

So, it all depends on what you seek. In the photos you posted, I agree with them comments that you needed to adjust your depth of field to better capture ones eye to your subject. By increasing your f stop and by reducing your shutter speed, you would have accomplished the same lighting result.
While you learn, I recommend you go with the aperture priority setting on your dial and play with higher f stops. As you do that, the camera will automatically reduce your shutter to compensate for your new setting. After you have played with that a while, you can go to full manual mode and control both as you see fit for the result you seek.
Thanks for all the info, Carlos. I will certainly keep it all in mind and apply it. I have been shooting with A (aperture priority) only really. Not sure why, just the shots come out best with that.
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The Professor 11:18 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Darrel,
It takes practice and not all can do it but you can actually hold down pretty well as low as 1/15 and possibly 1/8.
I can do 1/8 no problem but have done stuff like that for years so I set my body up in a tripod type stance and have adopted ways of pulling it off. Doesn't always work but I can usually pull it off more times than not.
Don't be afraid to try it. Also, don't let the camera tell you what f stop. Open it up manually as you go lower and you will open up light.

I have to go back and check my settings but this is an example of one I recall shooting at least at 1/15, if not 1/8.

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You shot that at 1/5, Carlos ... with a Point-and-Shoot (Canon PowerShot G1). Nice. :-)
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Blueface 11:54 AM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by The Professor:
You shot that at 1/5, Carlos ... with a Point-and-Shoot (Canon PowerShot G1). Nice. :-)
Wow.
Lower than I thought.
I was going to look it up but you saved me the trouble.
I miss that G1.
That was one neat non SLR almost professional digital.
Long gone now as the board sizzled and not worth repairing.

To this day, in spite of my D80, I often find myself using my Nikon CoolPix.
Those little guys can take some amazing photos but limit your manual mode creativity. The G1 allowed me to do anything except change lenses. Come to think of it, that camera had an amazing panoramic capability that use to stitch photos to create a 360 view if you wanted it. I think in spite of some computer crashes I may have one or two of those stitches around. Let me see if I can dig it up.

Why did you mention that G1?:-) I am having fond memories now.
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Vegan702 12:10 PM 01-01-2010
Originally Posted by UPHOTO:
I got a lot of stuff I could put on here but I'll just put some of my favorites up.

Actually traded a guy a couple boxes of CC for a 16x24 print of this picture. I still sell prints at a local art fair.

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Holga photo

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Another Holga shot

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Aaron,
Where is the top photo taken at?
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Wolfgang 12:57 PM 01-01-2010
House of Blues Orlando Fl. Only leveled

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Roland of Gilead 02:36 PM 01-01-2010
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-Roland.
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