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emopunker2004 12:50 AM 01-31-2013
Better get into reloading if you want 10mm.
1) Pricey
2) Alot of the 10mm loads on the market are underloaded and not maximizing it's potential

Mike I edited my post to say:
Aimpoint PRO $380
Troy Forend for AR $190ish
Magpul Front BUS $40
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$610

So $500 for a shotgun and ammo...lol
Or $730 if I just get the Aimpoint.

Hm I wouldn't mind a 30-30 Lever Action either
Robulous78 12:53 AM 01-31-2013
I haven't shot one either but if its pricey and underpowered I think I'll just pass...
emopunker2004 12:57 AM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
I haven't shot one either but if its pricey and underpowered I think I'll just pass...
10mm is a powerful cartridge, but if you reload you can make it better. Think .40 S&W on roids.
Robulous78 01:01 AM 01-31-2013
I really didn't notice too much of a difference between the .40 S&W to the 9mm... maybe alittle more punch but not so much that I would go out and buy a .40 over a 9mm... 9mm is cheaper anyway...
emopunker2004 01:02 AM 01-31-2013
you cant go by recoil. let your buddy shoot u with each and see which you like least :-)
Robulous78 01:04 AM 01-31-2013
lol... I take it you have looked into the actual ballistics... what is the real difference?
emopunker2004 01:06 AM 01-31-2013
Here, go watch. http://www.youtube.com/user/tnoutdoors9/videos?view=0
Nice tests galore.
Either will kill with good shot placement. If you can shoot the 40 as good as the 9 and get good follow up shots, go with the bigger bullet. :-)
Remo 01:09 AM 01-31-2013
Another downside I have heard about the 10mm is that they do have some serious recoil and are a bit hard to control.
emopunker2004 01:16 AM 01-31-2013
Just make sure you hit the 1st time :-)
spectrrr 05:10 AM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
Hey Mikey! Hmm what to spend $1100 on...lol

Aimpoint PRO $380
Troy Forend for AR $190ish
Magpul Front BUS $40
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$610

So $500 for a shotgun and ammo...lol
Or $730 if I just get the Aimpoint.

Take a look at the Diamondhead VR-S rail. I think that's going on mine. I like the look, and I particularly like the way they designed their barrel nut - no timing issues, looks sturdy as heck.

Here's some close ups of the mounting system and the rail: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/58...Handguard.html

Just keep in mine that the inches measurement is for the TOP rail. Add a little over an inch for the bottom.

Samson evolution has good reviews too, but good luck finding one in stock :-)
emopunker2004 06:05 AM 01-31-2013
I'm gonna go with a Samson/raniner evolution if I find one or the Troy alpha.
Think I might just get one of the nef/hawk/norinco 870 clone shotguns. They're great for the money.
spectrrr 09:25 AM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by emopunker2004:
I'm gonna go with a Samson/raniner evolution if I find one or the Troy alpha.
Think I might just get one of the nef/hawk/norinco 870 clone shotguns. They're great for the money.
/I was looking for the samson quite a bit, couldn't find one. Found a few midwest SS ones though. And it seems diamondhead is more in stock than others, so now I don't have to look :-)

$200 is a great pice for a shotty. I've been thinking about one of those myself. Also been looking at a 930 semi auto..
Digs 09:47 AM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by Remo:
Another downside I have heard about the 10mm is that they do have some serious recoil and are a bit hard to control.
Mike I am 10 mm guy, 10 has no worse recoil then .40 s&w (short & weak, ha-ha) or a small 9.

If I loaded up all my Glocks from G17 thru G30 the only one that stands out is the G27 (.40) the recoil is tad bit sharper. My 10mm Colt Delta has = recoil to my .45 Colt Gold CUP.
Digs 10:01 AM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by Robulous78:
I really didn't notice too much of a difference between the .40 S&W to the 9mm... maybe alittle more punch but not so much that I would go out and buy a .40 over a 9mm... 9mm is cheaper anyway...

Rob if I were going to buy a .40 I would rather the 10mm like Justin pointed out. A lot of std FMJ ammo for 10 has a tendency to not coming close to living up to its potential (because men have turned in pus-ies) But the is a difference in 180 gr. 40 cal is around 1000 fps /350 ft/lbs vs. 200 gr. 10mm is 1050 fps 490 ft/lbs.

The 10mm has the capability to stomp the nuts off the .40, there is good 10mm ammo out there if you are looking for a top level performer. :-)
emopunker2004 02:21 PM 01-31-2013
Got my pj holster in for my kahr cw45. Time to carry it to pick up some dinner. :-)
Robulous78 05:41 PM 01-31-2013
Originally Posted by Digs:
Rob if I were going to buy a .40 I would rather the 10mm like Justin pointed out. A lot of std FMJ ammo for 10 has a tendency to not coming close to living up to its potential (because men have turned in pus-ies) But the is a difference in 180 gr. 40 cal is around 1000 fps /350 ft/lbs vs. 200 gr. 10mm is 1050 fps 490 ft/lbs.

The 10mm has the capability to stomp the nuts off the .40, there is good 10mm ammo out there if you are looking for a top level performer. :-)
Was just curious about the round really... thanks for the info...:-) I wonder, is it really expensive to get started in reloading?
spectrrr 06:06 PM 01-31-2013
Talked to my moms landlady today, who decided to launch into conversation about the letter she wrote Obama with her idea for solving the "problem" we've got now...

She came up with what I thought for a split second was going to be a good idea. She correctly deduced that guns don't kill people. (imagine that)........ BULLETS DO. So to hell with gun control, she's pro gun... but doesn't feel safe around bullets. *DOH* She wants a little portable detector, maybe something that can go in her cell phone, so she can be alerted to the presence of bullets, that way she can leave the room.

I pointed out the pitfalls of increasing ammo costs to the point where people could not afford to train to a level of proficient safety (amongst many other things), and she said "GOOD!!" But don't worry, she's not anti-gun, and doesn't even know why I'm talking about them when she's only talking about bullets.

*sigh* Ron White said it best...
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Col. Kurtz 06:42 PM 01-31-2013
Natchez seems to have hi-caps in stock. c-products 30 rounders...
spectrrr 07:18 PM 01-31-2013
I need to track down a Black Dog 50rd drum for the 15-22... bump firing empties the 25rd mags too quickly :-)
emopunker2004 09:25 PM 01-31-2013
Here's the new holster.

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And his maker mark, must be new as my last holster didn't have one.

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