Glad to hear brother. I've been hitting the weights hard but the diet part hasnt been going too well for myself lol.

Hope it helps some.

Glad to hear you're back Dokk. Time to get better and get stronger.

Even dem legs out, Dokk! :-)

Bought some MHP Trac Extreme today, will give it a go on Sunday.

Heavy shoulders, traps and arms today. Almost always work out in a baggy sweatshirt...took it off for a sleeveless t today. Got a lot of comments on the guns from the guys who see me every day in my mumus.

I used to use HIT for runs. It works pretty well when your cutting. Outside of that not really a fan.

This sounds pretty good for me. I generally dont have issues with energy for workout. I usually work out PM and late usually an hour or two before bed. I am looking for something that wont jack me up because then sleep will be an issue.

What would you guys suggest for non energy PM workout drink?
I have never been a big supplements guy. Just Protien and vitamins. Lookingto expand as I am going to be hitting it hard again as I just had to buy a new duty belt do to expansion.

Personally I like Gun Powder by Pure Performance Nutrition, lately alot of guys from the Jiu Jitsu dojo have been using Jack3d by USP labs, and NOshotgun by VPX nutrition

hope that helps

:-)

Jack3d seems to have a lot less stims than the other pre-workout drinks I have cycled.

I will be able to report on MHP Trac next week, itzfrank says he thinks it is a bit lower on the stims too.

I drink powdered gatorade with aminos while I train. A few companies make a pre-mixed drink to have during training. There are a few products that are stim free. Animal Products put the stims in a separate pill so you can take it out if you are training late. What I found helps is just not to take so much when training late. If it says 1 scoop, do 1/3 instead, and make sure to take early before workout. Most guys, myself included pound down and energy drink 5 minutes before we walk into the gym. Most of the effects do not kick in until later in the workout. If you drink a small serving early before workout you should be ok.

You must immune to them than Tom. I've been using the Jack3d for the last month it gets me unreal wired. But I find it fades fast.

Whoa whoa! I said jack3d made me feel cracked out and I couldn't keep my breath. MHP TRAC Xtreme was the perfect balance of stims and pump for me.

Think I will try the gunpowder maybe get it from GNC or the other major chain and if it jacks me up to hard I will just take it back.

Because of the vasodilation these products are not good to use when running right? I seem to remember reading somthing about your body fighting itself because it is trying to raise blood pressure by constricting the blood vessels during the run while the NO products are dilating them. Not sure if that is exactly accurate but something along those lines

I've been using moderately heavy weights with my trainer for HIT and I've been putting on some decent size. It's all about the failure in every set and using intensity techniques.


As per your 2nd comment, I would probably stay away from PW drinks for evening workouts as the stims are usually the equivalent as to 2 cups of coffee. Might be better of with an arganine/creatine combo. It'd probably be most cost efficient, too.

I, also, use a carb supp called CarboHit that I use during my work out. Carbo Hit

You'd think it'd make it easier since it's helping to deliver oxygen and nutrients throughout the body. It also helps to prevent lactic acid build up.

Not out of the question, Frank. :-)

I knew you said MHP was lower on the stims, Frank....I was just saying that compared to White Flood and the other Pre Workout supps I have used, jack3d seems tame. I haven't even tried the MHP yet, just bought it today, but I gathered from your earlier post that it would have less stims than jack3d. :-)

chest and back with some abs tonite. Same 3x5x10 for the 4th week? idk I need to check though.

I did an all new chest routine and left the bench for last because I read somewhere that by doing so you recruit more muscles to help out. *shrugs*

Looking forward to my workout later. Bought some White Flood yesterday and some ON Whey Rocky road flavor :-)

Two of my all time faves, Christos! :-)

Off day for me! :-)

superpump just doesn't seem to cut the mustard for me anymore, I need a new preworkout

When I was taking NO supplements I cycled between Universal's Shock Therapy and there Pump, White Flood, and N.O. Explode. Shock Therapy definitely had more stims in it along with the pump. Pump was nice because it was in pill form but ending up cost slightly more than most. The others were middle of the road. Now I just slam an energy drink or some jack3d before training.

I've had white flood before and didn't like it as much. NO xplode seems to work for a bit for me and then doesn't do much. Maybe I'll try it again or shock therapy which i've never had

I will give an update on the MHP Trac after my workout tomorrow.

I will reserve judgement until I try this for a few workouts, but let me say that upon my first sampling, I am not overly impressed with the results.