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thechrisdotcom 11:03 PM 11-26-2011
Originally Posted by Bill86:
It's best to ask friends if they do buy you cigars to get them from a La Casa Del Habano shop. There are A LOT of fake cigars is certain countries.
Yeah, if I were to buy Cuban. But I didn't ask him to get me Cubans or anything. I told him to find me a DR made cigar since they'll be in DR. Didn't expect to have fake made DR cigars.
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Sauer Grapes 11:04 PM 11-26-2011
There were Domican Cohiba that used a band similar to that and they were sold in the US... Those are not them though.
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Drez 11:10 PM 11-26-2011
i will pay you for the box!!!!!!!!!!!! :-):-):-):-):-)
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thechrisdotcom 11:14 PM 11-26-2011
Originally Posted by Drez:
i will pay you for the box!!!!!!!!!!!! :-):-):-):-):-)
haha, you can have it.
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Remo 11:15 PM 11-26-2011
Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom:
haha, you can have it.
Send it to me first and i'll ship it to Frank :-)
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Drez 11:21 PM 11-26-2011
Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom:
haha, you can have it.
i will frame that lid!!! shows the fine time honored craftsmanship of the cohibo brand :-)

Originally Posted by Remo_5_0:
Send it to me first and i'll ship it to Frank :-)
shut it mike
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lenguamor 11:28 PM 11-26-2011
That brings up a question that I hadn't even thought of until now...are Cuban cigars legal in the DR?
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loki 11:45 PM 11-26-2011
Originally Posted by lenguamor:
That brings up a question that I hadn't even thought of until now...are Cuban cigars legal in the DR?
why wouldn't they be, not for us citizens to buy but that's another matter entirely.
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bobarian 11:49 PM 11-26-2011
Its amazing the amount of misinformation in this thread. The OP is 100% correct. The Dominican Cohiba's pictured are indeed limited to the DR. They are not allowed to be exported to the US due to copyright infringement. But, THEY ARE NOT FAKES! They are exactly what they proclaim to be Dominican produced Cohibas. These were exported in large quantities before the copyright case was litigated in the US courts. http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/...mark-case.aspx

Since 2006 the "Cohiba" trademark has been owned by General Cigar. General Cigar has since been purchased by Swedish Match. They also own the rights to several other previously "Cuban" trademarks such as, Ramon Allones, Bolivar and Cifuentes. I just sent a box of these pre-2006 Cohibas to Hugh(hotreds), perhaps he can post a picture.

There is not an LCDH in the Dominican Republic, nor are Cuban cigars generally available. But neither are Fuentes or most of the other Dominican rolled cigars made for US consumption, cigars are moved to a Duty Free zone and strictly regulated for export only.

The older DR Cohiba's were a mild cigar but certainly smokeable. After a few weeks rest I would not hesitate to light these up. Many fine cigars still are produced in the Dominican Republic although none use Cuban tobacco. :-)
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T.G 12:02 AM 11-27-2011
Fake? No. They are exactly what they claim to be... Domincan Cohibas.

There used to be two NC Cohibas. The General Cigar "red dot" and another that had a band similar to the Cuban band although the most easily identifiable difference being that it read "Republica Dominica" at the bottom. The yellow-band DR Cohibas were shut down, at least in this country, by a lawsuit by General (which they won) a few years back. According to a friend in the industry, the yellow-bands are still being produced by Monti Cristi (?spelling?), but are not for export off the island. What you have there, the cigars anyway, not necessarily the packaging though, looks to my recollection to be very similar, if not identical, to the old pre-lawsuit yellow-band DR Cohibas that were at one time sold here.
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Skywalker 12:15 AM 11-27-2011
They make good fertilizer! Right Bob???:-)
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T.G 12:26 AM 11-27-2011
:-):-):-)
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bobarian 02:35 AM 11-27-2011
Originally Posted by Skywalker:
They make good fertilizer! Right Bob???:-)
:-)
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thechrisdotcom 07:56 AM 11-27-2011
Originally Posted by bobarian:
Its amazing the amount of misinformation in this thread. The OP is 100% correct. The Dominican Cohiba's pictured are indeed limited to the DR. They are not allowed to be exported to the US due to copyright infringement. But, THEY ARE NOT FAKES! They are exactly what they proclaim to be Dominican produced Cohibas. These were exported in large quantities before the copyright case was litigated in the US courts. http://www.lexisnexis.com/community/...mark-case.aspx

Since 2006 the "Cohiba" trademark has been owned by General Cigar. General Cigar has since been purchased by Swedish Match. They also own the rights to several other previously "Cuban" trademarks such as, Ramon Allones, Bolivar and Cifuentes. I just sent a box of these pre-2006 Cohibas to Hugh(hotreds), perhaps he can post a picture.

There is not an LCDH in the Dominican Republic, nor are Cuban cigars generally available. But neither are Fuentes or most of the other Dominican rolled cigars made for US consumption, cigars are moved to a Duty Free zone and strictly regulated for export only.

The older DR Cohiba's were a mild cigar but certainly smokeable. After a few weeks rest I would not hesitate to light these up. Many fine cigars still are produced in the Dominican Republic although none use Cuban tobacco. :-)
Yeah, I read some stuff about that.

The only thing that got me was the poorly made box with the Cohiba face facing the wrong direction and the poorly constructed cigar. It felt soft and not fulled packed well. It has a few softer spots in areas.
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ckay 08:57 AM 11-27-2011
I would not smoke that thing even with the promise of a Family Reserve 45 or Siglo VI upon completion.
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MurphysLaw 09:18 AM 11-27-2011
Here's a pic of a yellow band DR Cohiba I have in my edgestar, this was gifted to me so I can't comment on what the box looked like, but the band is very different the gold letters are raised on mine, and the cigar is evenly filled and looks to be good construction.

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shilala 09:39 AM 11-27-2011
Yes, they're Dominican Cohibas.
They make cigars all over Dominican. You can get someone to roll you one pretty much anywhere. I have a couple I got in Punta Cana and have seen the ones you got in gift shops.
That said, they are what they are. I smoked a couple Dominican home-rolleds while I was there and they were okay. They were super wet, but they're supposed to be super wet when you just rolled them.
My suggeston is that you smoke one right away so you get that same soggy experience. It's fun. Then set them back and try them again later. They might be good, maybe not.

They don't really mean any harm down there in using the "big names". They use them jokingly. I saw 100 Walmarts that were junk stores. Right next to our resort was a string of shacks that ran from Walmart to Macy's to Kmart, etc. Each shop used a different "big store name". It was just meant to display a sense of humor.
I think that's exactly what you're looking at here. :-)
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the nub 09:46 AM 11-27-2011
Originally Posted by thechrisdotcom:
:-)

Now I'm no pro when it comes to Cohibas, cuz I don't smoke these things.

But isn't the face supposed to be facing the other direction?
actually, in this case the face should be facing down and there should be a picture of a toilet also since you'll probably be heaving a few after smoking these.
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Blak Smyth 12:42 PM 11-27-2011
I saw some DR cohibas in California this last week. The did not have the red dot label, they had a label that looked the same as the CCs but it said DR at the bottom of the label. They where very nicely constructed visually and everything seemed well made, even the box.

The pics that Murphy's law posted are the same as what I saw.
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chaase321 09:48 AM 11-28-2011
Originally Posted by Bill86:
It's best to ask friends if they do buy you cigars to get them from a La Casa Del Habano shop. There are A LOT of fake cigars is certain countries.
:-) +1 That's where I send all my gift giving buddies!
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