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pnoon 12:30 PM 08-10-2011
haha lol

I read it on the Internet.
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WittyUserName 12:33 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by massphatness:
Because you cannot account for beetle infestation post-freeze at the manufacturing site.

Originally Posted by T.G:
Simple. After leaving the manufacturer's blast freezers they spend a lot of time in various common warehouse humidors and transit where the potential for re-exposure exists.

Originally Posted by pnoon:
haha lol

I read it on the Internet.
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<----- This noob was just taken to school......:-)
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icehog3 02:35 PM 08-10-2011
Don't believe everything you read, and certainly don't regurgitate it.
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pnoon 02:41 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Don't believe everything you read, and certainly don't regurgitate it.
Sage advice.
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wayner123 02:48 PM 08-10-2011
Just to add, I have seen pics of tubo's in which the beetles ate through. So the zip-locs ain't going to stop them.
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Skywalker 02:52 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Just to add, I have seen pics of tubo's in which the beetles ate through. So the zip-locs ain't going to stop them.
:-)
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icehog3 02:54 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Just to add, I have seen pics of tubo's in which the beetles ate through. So the zip-locs ain't going to stop them.
Would love to see those pics.
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wayner123 03:01 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Would love to see those pics.
I'll try to find them. But in the meantime, here is an article which claims they can chew through aluminum foil.

http://www.wvu.edu/~exten/infores/pubs/pest/hpm8004.pdf
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Tyler 03:16 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Blak Smyth:
Not as bad as I pictured, thanks for the pic Wallbright.
Didn't see this earlier. No problem at all. I guess it looks like a backwoods? Haha
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Tyler 03:21 PM 08-10-2011
Whaa? I found this through Ebsco while searching for tobacco beetle.

Originally Posted by :
Examines the discovery of the tobacco beetle in the mummy of Egyptian pharaoh Rameses II, and provides an alternative model for its origin. Discussion on Rameses II and his discovery; Possibility of modern insect and mite infestation of the mummy; Historical background on the use of natural substances as insecticides.
I never knew there was a tobacco beetle found with Rameses II. Cool.
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poker 03:38 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Would love to see those pics.
Me too.
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Tyler 08:34 PM 08-10-2011
Cigars are in the fridge awaiting freezer time. :-) :-) :-)

Thanks fellas for all the fast responses. I decided that it would be best to freeze than to run the risk. :Tu
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Devanmc 08:59 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by icehog3:
Would love to see those pics.
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Just to add, I have seen pics of tubo's in which the beetles ate through. So the zip-locs ain't going to stop them.
Originally Posted by Skywalker:
:-)
Originally Posted by poker:
Me too.
im not saying its true becuase this is the interwebs but i did find multipule sources stating the bettles can eat threw, what amounts to, thin soft metals.

http://www.tabacordillera.com/tobacc...pests-mold.htm

http://www.gosmokeshop.com/1298/primer.htm

http://www.cigarsmag.com/articlesIns...p?type=1&ar=24

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/archiv...hp/t-8786.html
(post from silverfox at 01-25-2009, 04: 27 PM)

:-) :-) dont crucify me i found it on the interwebs, if could just be a myth. :-)
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T.G 09:49 PM 08-10-2011
There's a huge difference in thickness between the metal-foil discussed in those articles and the walls of a tubo Devan.
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Tyler 09:51 PM 08-10-2011
How much thicker are the walls of a tubo though? The RyJ ones I have seem pretty thin but definitely thicker than tin foil.
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Average Joe 09:59 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by T.G:
There's a huge difference in thickness between the metal-foil discussed in those articles and the walls of a tubo Devan.
Who cares how thin the metal is. They're eating through metal. Period. Go chew some tin foil and report back on how easy it is. :-) I remember being a little dumb @## when I was little and doing that. Took me about 1/8th of a bite to learn
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Tyler 10:03 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Average Joe:
Who cares how thin the metal is. They're eating through metal. Period. Go chew some tin foil and report back on how easy it is.
I think you can bite through tin foil relatively easy. :-)

I am only kidding. I see your point. It is better to be safe than sorry. I am going to freeze them so that I am 100% positive that the beetles are at least kicked into hibernation mode. The only problem is that I live in Texas and with this heat, 104-106 today I believe with some days up to 110, I have a hard time keeping the house cool much less my cooler of cigars in the closet. I just read the hygros in the humi and they say 74 and 72 so not too bad but I hear the beetles start to be a problem close to 79-80 right?
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BC-Axeman 10:05 PM 08-10-2011
I think I read on a website somewhere that they use static electricity to arc their way through metal. I'll try to find that link. Maybe Wikipedia.
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bobarian 10:06 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Average Joe:
Who cares how thin the metal is. They're eating through metal. Period. Go chew some tin foil and report back on how easy it is. :-) I remember being a little dumb @## when I was little and doing that. Took me about 1/8th of a bite to learn
Tobacco beetles CANNOT eat through metal. The "foil" used in cigar storage(Tat RC184, RyJ Cazadores, etc.) is paper with a thin metallic coating. I am still waiting for pics of beetles chewing through an aluminum tubo. I have seen many beetle holes in cigars from tubos, not one chewed its way through. :-)
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Bill86 10:07 PM 08-10-2011
Originally Posted by Average Joe:
Who cares how thin the metal is. They're eating through metal. Period. Go chew some tin foil and report back on how easy it is. :-) I remember being a little dumb @## when I was little and doing that. Took me about 1/8th of a bite to learn
I've never seen such pictures or claims of this before today.....Not saying it isn't true, but ....I'm pretty damn skeptical.

I'd love to see pictures, as mentioned by several members already.
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