PLEASE put a buttstock on that thing. If you can become extremely accurate with it as is, by all means, go ahead and use it. When people go out and buy a pistol gripped shotgun with a short barrel simply because it is short and "tactical", it scares the living hell out of me. I have shot guns all of my life, but the moment I tried this Mossberg, I was terrified that this weapon sells as greatly as it does as difficult as it is get a good picture sight and align with targets quickly. I am not hating on you, but mossberg just scares the hell out of me with some of the guns they make for the masses for "home-defense."

QFE
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You would be surprised to find out how easy it is to miss a target in an inside home situation, even with a shotgun. Extreme close quarters firing with a shotgun must be PRECISE firing. What you failed to realize is that when the shot leaves the barrel of the shotgun, it is not in the spread out pattern that it will be in 15-20 feet or so. When the shot leaves the barrel at that close of a range, it is in an extremely tight grouping. Again, train, train, and train. Take several different loads of rounds out to the range and do some practical shooting at very close distances(if possible, not all ranges allow things like this). Try shooting your selected rounds at a range of 5-10 feet and see what kind of grouping you get. You will be surprised just how accurate you must be to hit a target. Just because you have a shotgun does NOT mean you will automatically hit your target because you are aiming in the general area of the target.
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honestly, the best HD gun is the one you practice/train with. shotguns are good depending on load, handgun. A glock with a taclight would make a good one.
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Great point if you have children or others sleeping in other rooms! Beware of collateral damage.

AGREED! MY dad has scared off people in his back yard with this approach without confronting them

Excellent points! Point #4 gets to your familiarity with the weapon. It shouldn't be in your house until you and your spouse know how to use it instinctively (worth mentioning I think).

Sage advice indeed!
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:-)
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My Remington P870 with #4 buck...

ps. safety, safety, and safety; practice, practice, and more practice!

...Yes!


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Agreed on all accounts. Me? I have a Mossberg 590A1.
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I'm with you guys on the 12 gauge.

But there is no way in hell that I would try to scare someone away by racking a shell into the chamber. If they take off, it's all well and good. If they don't run, then you have a serious problem.

1) The guy now knows where you are and that you have a gun.
2) You've given him time to react.
3) If he is also armed, you might scare him into shooting at you.
4) If there is more than one, you're on a-whole-nother level of screwed. Especially if they are split up. Then you have two or three guys in your house, possibly armed and definitely scared.

In my unprofessional opinion, if you're going to try to scare someone instead of shooting them, you're probably better off locking the doors and yelling that you're going to call the police. Use the shotgun as back up in case they try something crazy like kicking your bedroom door in.

That's just a couple thoughts I had. I've never been in that situation and there is no way to know how you'll act if something like that goes down. Just something to think about.
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You say this like it's a bad thing. I sure as Hell don't have cotton candy for him.
Which includes rethinking/retreating. This is not a bad thing.
It's possible, but if I'm chambering a round, it's not going to be in a direct line of sight. Further, I have the tactical advantage because I have, "home court advantage." Iknow the layout of my house, and they do not.
If you have that many perpetrators in your house, you think you're NOT screwed?


Just some counter-thoughts to your thoughts.:-)
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I sent my wife to a gun safety course and she did very well... I use the SW 1911 with hollow points and she's a very good shot...my brother works for the CIA and advised if she ever has to use it to dump all rounds into the perp as she can use the excuse she was scared crapless helps with court...
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I live alone right now anyways, so if I heard someone in the house I doubt I would even venture outside my room. Like I said above, I'd probably just train the shotgun on the bedroom door and call the five-o.
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Exactly...in a stressful situation, you will instinctively revert back to your training...or lack of training. Frequent, proper training/practice is essential. For instance, if you will keep the thumb safety a handgun engaged while it is idle, practice disengaging the safety before each burst of fire.

For ammunition, as some have suggested, look for rounds (for indoor home protection) that will stop the threat without continuing long distances past the threat after impact.

Outside the home, a Glock is a good choice for a handgun for a beginner in that it is "double - double action" and has the added safety feature of the trigger safety. I would also suggest at least .40 caliber for adequate stopping power. A more experienced shooter may choose something like what I carry off duty, a Sig Sauer .45 caliber, which has "double -single action", which gives me more accuracy on subsequent rounds in stressful situations. Ideally, you would try several handguns at a range before purchasing to see what you are most comfortable with.

Again echoing others' sentiments, shotguns arer a good choice for in-home protection.....and an AR-15 for riot-control on your property couldn't hurt. :-)
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Just a thought, not much good except for home/personal defense

http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...crumbseries=41

especially with this round

http://www.winchester.com/Products/N.../pdx1-410.aspx
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Your wife might like this model esp. for the ladies:

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Amen. We taught my youngest son (the only one still living at home) how to shoot when he was 9. My wife pretty much learned along with him.

He was a very mature 9, and the range masters at my local range took extra time with him, helping him out. We were able to just go there and rent the guns for him and my wife to shoot, my S&W 9mm was a little much for him at that age.
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I'd go with an ar, they are easy to handle, you can keep it by your bed in hot standby, and you have a lot of ammo in one mag. Plus they are fun as hell to shoot.
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Not sure how good of a picture sight you could get in a dark room in a stressful situation.

I've put a few hundred rounds through my pistol and with the laser site, and can shoot very accurately.

I've shot the Mossberg only a few times and it was held slightly above waist level at a target which was at about 10 yards. I was quite pleased with the results.

Due to the fact I don't live alone, I keep birdshot in the Mossberg.

Just the same, I'll consider a buttstock and continue to pray I never need to use it.
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One other consideration is that if you turn on the tac light, make sure that you do it from a place of concealment as it makes a convenient aiming point for an armed intruder to fire back at you.
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Roger, when are you taking the class? I might be so inclined to take it with you... Ive been meaning to do this for a while now.
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I think you have to shoot a gun and see how it feels in your hand. That's why I love my Sig 9mm. Fits in my hand perfectly. Glocks are too boxy for my hand. I have a Mossberg w/pistol grip too, but If something goes down at night and I have to grab something fast, it's going to be a pistol.
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