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wayner123 10:37 AM 02-01-2011
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
Don't forget Windows' built in anti-virus. It works pretty good as long as you keep it updated, which is critical in Windoze anyway. After doing an update win$ will run a scan when it reboots. Things called rootkits get around this but you probably don't have one.
I have been able to get rid of most infections by running SuperAntiSpyware followed by WinDefender followed by a security update.
If he can't run anything on her side, it is acting exactly like a rootkit. A scan with malwarebytes should show that.
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BC-Axeman 10:47 AM 02-01-2011
If he can get in as Administrator and get to security updates and use control panel and run Malwarebytes it's not a very good rootkit. Rootkits replace the kernel and you are no longer even running Windows, you are running malware that runs Windows for you, meanwhile it can do whatever it wants with your computer. Keep track of your every keypress, decode encrypted transactions, read any file and hide some from you, turn on your webcam and microphones, anything.
I like Malwarebytes. I just happen to carry SAS around on a thumb drive with me.
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wayner123 11:01 AM 02-01-2011
Originally Posted by BC-Axeman:
If he can get in as Administrator and get to security updates and use control panel and run Malwarebytes it's not a very good rootkit. Rootkits replace the kernel and you are no longer even running Windows, you are running malware that runs Windows for you, meanwhile it can do whatever it wants with your computer. Keep track of your every keypress, decode encrypted transactions, read any file and hide some from you, turn on your webcam and microphones, anything.
I like Malwarebytes. I just happen to carry SAS around on a thumb drive with me.
That was the old rootkit's 1 and 2 that may have done that. Rootkit's 3-5 (5 no one has confirmed yet) does not work this way.
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jledou 11:33 AM 02-01-2011
One simple solution that has taken care of some (not all) of these, is a system restore to a date before this happened. In short some are worse than others, meaning some you have to catch before they load, some have to be taken care of in DOS, and some are a restore point away from being gone. Good luck.
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RandJCigars 02:37 PM 02-01-2011
Download and Install SpyBot Search and Destroy. It's free and it's very good. Make sure to boot into safe mode to run the scans...as some virus', bots, and maleware can stop a scanner from running properly.
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357 02:43 PM 02-01-2011
It's known as "FakeAV". I have fought and beaten this exact issue. A freeware application called HitManPro will find and remove it. Install it while logged in under your profile, reboot into Safe Mode (hit F8 as it is booting up), and run a full system scan.

Many of the other common anti-malware/spyware apps will not work on this one. I have tried MalwareBytes, AVG, SpyBot, Symantec AV, McAfee AV, Trend Micro, and more. HitManPro is the only automated way. I have removed it manually by digging through the registry and tons of DLL files, but I doubt you want to venture into that.

Good luck.
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Blueface 02:51 PM 02-01-2011
Erick, all fantastic advice given to you except the most important.

Here goes
:-)

Ready?
:-)

Get a Mac!!!:-)

Other than that, not much else I can offer.
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wayner123 02:54 PM 02-01-2011
Originally Posted by 357:
It's known as "FakeAV". I have fought and beaten this exact issue. A freeware application called HitManPro will find and remove it. Install it while logged in under your profile, reboot into Safe Mode (hit F8 as it is booting up), and run a full system scan.

Many of the other common anti-malware/spyware apps will not work on this one. I have tried MalwareBytes, AVG, SpyBot, Symantec AV, McAfee AV, Trend Micro, and more. HitManPro is the only automated way. I have removed it manually by digging through the registry and tons of DLL files, but I doubt you want to venture into that.

Good luck.
Kaspersky is the leader in this field. I have removed trjoans, malware, etc multiple times from multiple machines with the tdsskiller. Malewarebytes will remove all the associated files from cookies and so on, and also let you know whether it's a rootkit or not. Then run tdsskiller and it "should" be gone. If that doesn't work, I have more last option, but I am not going to list it till the OP tries the others first.

I don't mean to argue with you, and I am sure you have removed it through other programs (gmer is also a good one). I have a lot of experience with this malicious software and have read hours on hours of bleepingcomputer logs to feel confident in my advice.
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wayner123 02:58 PM 02-01-2011
Originally Posted by Blueface:
Erick, all fantastic advice given to you except the most important.

Here goes
:-)

Ready?
:-)

Get a Mac!!!:-)

Other than that, not much else I can offer.
Unfortunately, Mac's are not immune to rootkits.
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357 08:24 AM 02-02-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Kaspersky is the leader in this field. I have removed trjoans, malware, etc multiple times from multiple machines with the tdsskiller. Malewarebytes will remove all the associated files from cookies and so on, and also let you know whether it's a rootkit or not. Then run tdsskiller and it "should" be gone. If that doesn't work, I have more last option, but I am not going to list it till the OP tries the others first.

I don't mean to argue with you, and I am sure you have removed it through other programs (gmer is also a good one). I have a lot of experience with this malicious software and have read hours on hours of bleepingcomputer logs to feel confident in my advice.
I too have extensive experience with this stuff in a work environment. I do use MalwareBytes quite a bit, but I've seen it detect and remove potions of FakeAV and leave other parts behind. Maybe the newer versions do a better job. Kaspersky very well may work. It is not one I've used so I can't comment on that either way. I know HitManPro will work and it's free. Either way I feel he has good advice from guys who've done this before, not just random "try this" suggestions from folks who are trying to help but don't have the background/experience.
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MiamiE 08:51 AM 02-02-2011
I did the Malwarebytes and Comodo AV full scans. It detected the 4 viruses and deleted them, but my wife's IE still doesn't work. Says there no connection to the proxy server. This may be due to Comodo creating a unique IP? She can open all her files again. Thanks for all your help guys! Much appreciated.
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wayner123 09:02 AM 02-02-2011
Originally Posted by MiamiE:
I did the Malwarebytes and Comodo AV full scans. It detected the 4 viruses and deleted them, but my wife's IE still doesn't work. Says there no connection to the proxy server. This may be due to Comodo creating a unique IP? She can open all her files again. Thanks for all your help guys! Much appreciated.
Did you run tdsskiller?
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MiamiE 09:28 AM 02-02-2011
I am going to have to do that one later.
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mosesbotbol 09:31 AM 02-02-2011
Copy her files such as documents, favorite, mail settings...

Delete her profile and create a new one until you find the AV software to dig deeper.
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Bageland2000 09:33 AM 02-02-2011
Originally Posted by MiamiE:
I did the Malwarebytes and Comodo AV full scans. It detected the 4 viruses and deleted them, but my wife's IE still doesn't work. Says there no connection to the proxy server. This may be due to Comodo creating a unique IP? She can open all her files again. Thanks for all your help guys! Much appreciated.
Are you trying to connect to a proxy server!? I doubt you are... A better question may be, how do you connect to the internet (modem, dsl, cable etc)
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MiamiE 09:49 AM 02-02-2011
I have DSL. When I loaded Comodo it asked if I wanted to create a different IP.
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357 10:01 AM 02-02-2011
Originally Posted by MiamiE:
I have DSL. When I loaded Comodo it asked if I wanted to create a different IP.
In IE, click tools, Internet options, then click the Connections Tab. Near the bottom click "LAN Settings" and uncheck the "Use Proxy" option. You'll have to close IE completely and re-open it. Some viruses (Virii) setup bogus proxies in IE to steal personal information. You can also get to these options in Control Panel under Internet Options.

For most DSL/Cable providers it is not necessary to use a proxy. Sometimes their install CD points you to one, but that is only for their benefit. They sell the tracking info of where you go, what you browse, and how often you make purchases, and where. They do no collect personal info, but I still don't like participating. Comcast amongst others does this with their proxies. This is why I don't install their CD. You don't need it to get online. Just an IP address, gateway, and a subnet mask. 99% of the time that is automatically provided by DHCP to the cable/DSL modem, so you're good.
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MiamiE 08:39 PM 02-02-2011
Originally Posted by wayner123:
Did you run tdsskiller?
Just ran this and it found no threats. My wifes IE has reverted back to F'd up after a restart... :-)
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MiamiE 09:07 PM 02-02-2011
Found the bastard with Hitman Pro 3.5.8

3 Trojans, 1 Malware, 1 Rootkit, and 3 Tracking Cookie. Question is what do I do now? Delete, quarantine, or ignore?
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wayner123 09:25 PM 02-02-2011
I am not familiar with hitmanpro, but if it found something that tdsskiller did not, I would be wary.

Quarantine it and see what happens.

You can always go with my last option which is combofix.exe but let me know before you choose to do this step.

I also forgot to mention that you MUST run and save the tdsskiller.exe on your desktop. Or it won't work properly. Here is the basic use for it: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic377240.html
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